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Dirk for Beasley??? 

Post#1 » by mrmreg » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:16 am

If rebuilding is in order, should the Mavs give some thought to trying to land the next young star to get the ball rolling? Could they if they wanted to? Say Miami gets the #1 pick. Do they prefer to pair Dirk with Wade rather than having to wait for Beasley to develop and wasting a few of Wade's prime years? For the salaries to match, something like Blount, Haslem and the #1 pick for Dirk???

I doubt Cuban has any interest in shipping Dirk and will instead hire a new coach and look to apply a few band-aids to the roster. The window on this team would appear to be squarely closed IMO, and if it is, every year they wait to trade their #1 chip his value declines.
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Post#2 » by kdot99 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:22 am

Rioght. The Heat aren't going to pass up a potential superstar for Dirk, whom is 11 years his junior. And you act like adding Haslem in is nothing, when he has value too.
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Post#3 » by Pointguard01 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:24 am

I would love to get ahold of Marion + a top pick. I think that would be a GREAT start to rebuilding, either getting him or Derrick Rose. Marion would also be of value, possibely trading him to a team like Portland to get some young talent and Raef LaFrentz's expiring contract or Cleveland for Szczerbiak + young talent.

Im not totally for rebuilding but if we decide to go that way then this would be the start of it.
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Post#4 » by mffl_14 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:31 am

Trading Dirk is not the answer. Especially to the freaking Heat ! Besides that doesn't even make sense for them anyways. It's not like we just out and out suck we just need to get the right pieces together. I agree there are moves to be made but Dirk shouldn't be one of them. Is there a free agent list thats out there of possibilities that would strengthen our bench.
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Post#5 » by Pointguard01 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:40 am

we have needed the "right" peices to put around Dirk for 6 years now, dont you think by now we should have figured it out. Unless we can get a Tmac, Wade, Kobe, LBJ type of player that makes Dirk a 1b or #2 player, its not going to work IMO. Bringing in Mike Miller is not gonna make a difference people.
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Post#6 » by HeatFanSince87 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:03 am

Sorry for the L fellas. I was telling all my buddies, earlier in the season if the Mavs lost in the first round again, it be time for a change. Much like Boston last year, bringing in KG, I could see a trade happening had Riley stayed on as coach. However, being we have a new, young coach, if we get Rose or Beasley, I see us keeping them and teaming them with Wade for the next 7-10 years. Marion will help us short term and "could" be resigned next summer, but the guy is not going to get the HUGE deal he is looking for from us..I promise you that. That being said, Marion and a pick 3 or 4 could be sent to the Mavs for Dirk, because that gives you the flexability to see if you want to keep Marion or clear 17 million off the books, and would also get an OJ Mayo, Deandre Jorden, Eric Gorden, Lopex, etc..

You may think its not as fair, but lets face it, you're team is basically built for Dirk as the the star, and the window in the tough west may just be closed.

Marion and 3rd or 4th pick in the draft for Dirk. Doubtful, but could work well for both teams...
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Post#7 » by mffl_14 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:04 am

I realize that but if we could get a Marion, Wade, Lebron, or a Kobe then I am pretty sure they would do it. But your not going to get that for Dirk anyways. I dont really care for get my hopes up and let me down mediocre basketball but I'm not for trading away the greatest all time Maverick and a future hall of famer in my opinion, to attempt to rebuild. Rebuilding is a lost cause anyways because we dont have picks so that's why I say try to find better pieces.
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Post#8 » by littlemav » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:06 am

i'd rather use the pick on rose than beasley
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Post#9 » by HeatFanSince87 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:10 am

Personally, Marion and (if the Heat dont get 1-2 pick) say OJ Mayo I think he a very fair trade for Dirk...

Now, would Wade and Dirk get along..I am sure they could work out that BS, because deep down, both guys are easy going guys anyway
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Post#10 » by jbsg02 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:10 am

Dirk isn't the teams problem
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Post#11 » by dirkforpres » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:13 am

If it was Marion and the pick, I would definately do the trade. But Dirk is not the guy the Mavs FO should look to deal, that should be Howard, JET, and Stack
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Post#12 » by HeatFanSince87 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:22 am

Being Mav fans, what do you see happening? Not that its the same, but this kind of reminds me of the good Heat teams we had in the late 90's, and NY always seemed to have our number. We would lose in game 7, by one, but it got to the point, where we knew we needed a change, even though at the same time, we knew we had a very good team.. Just like last season, when the Warriors matched up so well with the Mavs, had it been any other team, most likely you win, the same was for us an 1 seed in 99 vs 8th seeded Knicks..
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Post#13 » by HeatFanSince87 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:24 am

The problem is, no way you get the 3rd or 4th pick in a very deep draft and Shawn Marion for Josh Howard..
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Post#14 » by dirkforpres » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:27 am

HeatFanSince87 wrote:The problem is, no way you get the 3rd or 4th pick in a very deep draft and Shawn Marion for Josh Howard..


Even for just one of them it would be a great move for Dallas IMO
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Post#15 » by HeatFanSince87 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:45 am

Marion for Howard... DONE! Haha..if only it were that easy
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Post#16 » by studcrackers » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:13 am

if the original question is would i give up dirk for beasley then hell yes i would, id probably strongly consider heat fans proposal too of getting the 3rd or 4th pick w/marion
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Post#17 » by Pointguard01 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:44 am

jbsg02 wrote:Dirk isn't the teams problem


But the problem is putting guys around Dirk. We need a 1st option, someone who can get get his shot anytime he wanted. For as good as Dirk is offensively, he's a strict jumpshooter than settles for tough shots alot and that doesnt get it done in the playoffs consistently.

If we cant put the right team around Dirk, then we have to remantle it all.

Personally, Marion and (if the Heat dont get 1-2 pick) say OJ Mayo I think he a very fair trade for Dirk...


No, its not. Boston had to give up a stud in Al Jefferson + bunch of other good young players for KG. Not comparing KG to Dirk, but Dirk being much younger, it's a similar offer.

Dallas would also be looking to give JET in the package, who would look great in the backcourt alongside Wade. With JET and Dirk's shooting, it would really open up the lane for Wade to drive.
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Re: Dirk for Beasley??? 

Post#18 » by Hoops23 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:17 am

mrmreg wrote:If rebuilding is in order, should the Mavs give some thought to trying to land the next young star to get the ball rolling? Could they if they wanted to? Say Miami gets the #1 pick. Do they prefer to pair Dirk with Wade rather than having to wait for Beasley to develop and wasting a few of Wade's prime years? For the salaries to match, something like Blount, Haslem and the #1 pick for Dirk???

I doubt Cuban has any interest in shipping Dirk and will instead hire a new coach and look to apply a few band-aids to the roster. The window on this team would appear to be squarely closed IMO, and if it is, every year they wait to trade their #1 chip his value declines.
If Miami has the #1 pick, no way Miami trade their future franchise player in Beasley or even Rose for the soft Dirk.
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Post#19 » by Pointguard01 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:57 pm

^I can understand Beasley, but Derrick Rose would not be a good fit in Miami alongside Dwayne Wade. Niether one are good outside shootersand BOTH need the ball in their hands to be effective. Rose should play alongside a sharpshooter, a la Michael Redd, and Wade should play alongside a PG who can shoot the lights out and spot up beyond the arc.
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Post#20 » by DraftBoy10 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:16 pm

I think dealing Dirk to Miami for thier pick, or even to New York for thier pick(depending on lottery results) would be beneficial.

But if you believe they'll deal Shawn Marion + thier pick for Mr. Dirk. That's incredibly stupid for Miami. The point would be to stack Dirk, Marion, and Wade.

I was thinking this too with McGrady, and Houston sending him to Miami or New York or Clippers for some more + their pick.

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