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If we had tanked it at the end of the season:

Avery would have still been fired
The offseason moves would still have taken place
We would have kept our draft choice which would have been in the lottery

You all came down on me, you said I was anti-Mavs. I said it was best for the teams success. Now, we don't have a draft pick in the 1st round and our future is in disarray...

One step back to take a few steps forward is not a bad thing folks...

Like in JES' case with the trade itself, you should have listened to me...

How much of a consolation is it that we 'at least made the playoffs?'

It's not good business sense. Watch out folks, Denver is going to be scary good with their lottery pick next year.

hmm...what do you want to hear?

Yup, you were right!

Wow, you are so cool, you know it all!

Hey, everybody lets line up and suck YDM off!! He's our lord!



**** THAT! I'd rather lose this way than not to give it a shot at all. You can't fault a team for trying to win. This team never quit, they just were not good enough. Period. I'd prefer that than a bunch of quitting, losing accepting, sorry bunch of bitches. They lost, it sucks, it hurts yet again, but they tried...they just weren't good enough. At least they wanted and tried to win.

weigh the consequences of this:

1)you keep Harris and Diop and end up with the same results against NOH. do you then trick yourself into thinking: "well, Dirk still has a window and Harris is young and will get better and Josh is young and will return to form and Diop is young and Bass is a bright spot - all we have to do is retool!"

versus
2) you trade for Kidd and get the results against NOH. And there are advocates claiming "trade Dirk now" or "trade Kidd now" but moreso I think fans are saying "get rid of Avery (which happened and probably would have in scenario 1 too) and retool around Dirk and Kidd and try to keep Bass if you can but everyone else can be had for the right price"

so now you're in the offseason and willing to trade just about anyone but Dirk versus being in the offseason pinning hopes on Howard returning to form and Harris getting better and little improvement from outside the team.

so you could trade JET or Stack or Damp, but you can do that now.
the pieces have not changed that much from where we are now to where we would have been...

i am more interested in how to overhaul this roster around primarily DIrk and secondarily Kidd and tertially Bass...

If the Mavericks ever tanked on purpose like you suggest they should have done, I'd never support them again. I'd rather cheer on Memphis than watch a team with no back bone. Other than the Kidd trade, the Mavs did the right thing.

your_dallas_mavericks wrote:If we had tanked it at the end of the season:

Avery would have still been fired
The offseason moves would still have taken place
We would have kept our draft choice which would have been in the lottery

You all came down on me, you said I was anti-Mavs. I said it was best for the teams success. Now, we don't have a draft pick in the 1st round and our future is in disarray...

One step back to take a few steps forward is not a bad thing folks...

Like in JES' case with the trade itself, you should have listened to me...

How much of a consolation is it that we 'at least made the playoffs?'

It's not good business sense. Watch out folks, Denver is going to be scary good with their lottery pick next year.

STFU

from_ro_to_dirk wrote:I'd rather lose this way than not to give it a shot at all. You can't fault a team for trying to win. This team never quit, they just were not good enough. Period. I'd prefer that than a bunch of quitting, losing accepting, sorry bunch of bitches. They lost, it sucks, it hurts yet again, but they tried...they just weren't good enough. At least they wanted and tried to win.

Agreed with the bolded section, but Josh Howard and Avery Johnson quit. Kidd never began. Dirk, Terry and Bass are the three to show up this year. Ironically, the 3 that showed up last year was Diop, Harris and Howard. If they all show up, we'd get out of the 1st round.

I may be missing something but none of us play for the Mavs and tanking it wasn't our choice but if I look at what the poster is saying here I think it's clear that it would have been better to have the pick than not but then again I think what is upsetting is that he used the word tank. I could never condone tanking and I don't think any fan would either but hindsite is always 20/20.

To lose on purpose is stupid and destroys the teams morale and just curses you to be like the Clippers. We need to always emphasize winning and never ever look at losing as an option. Winners win and Losers lose and to think even for a little like a loser is to pollute your mental landscape with a poison so insidius that it can act like a cancer and eat away at your character to the point you don't care about anything and losing then becomes your modus operandi and consequently your future.

Giving up is the mark of death upon your athletic career and since most of us have never been or never will be blessed to be a professional athlete all we have is our desire to be the best we can be and that can never be allowed to be contaminated with the negativity of giving up. Our teams lead by example for all the community to see and we need these teams that act as role models to do so in such a way that they inspire the next generation to have the same winning attitude even if you can't be a millionaire professional athlete.

I was pushing for tank it, too.

Sorry but there just wasn't any sign that this team would go far during the season, pre or post-Kidd.

I personally don't think a lottery pick would've helped us more next year than a good MLE signing would. That being the case, I think we're better off drafting a lottery pick for a rebuild, and we're better doing that in 2009 than in 2008, IMO.

^^ draft picks are relatively cheaper than established players are. That's another reason why I wanted this.

But...

As I read what everyone has to say, I have to agree with this. I would have not wanted to follow my Mavs if they had tanked it. So, I am reversing my field on this thread.

They did the right thing. They fought as hard as they could under the circumstances which occurred.

I feel dirty after making this thread. I am just upset like everyone else is about the complete and total end of season destruction.

as dirty as Miley and her dad?

dirtier...

much, much dirtier...

how about THIS dirty?...

whatchya gonna do when the Hulkamania runs wild on you, Brooke?

^^ I love it, a double post from the Picture King...