Dirk for Aldridge+Blake+Przybilla?

[GermanFan120]

Hi everyone, i am new here. I have been supporting Dallas since 2000 and I am a true Dirk fan. I couldn't finish watching yesterday's game and I feel very sorry for Dirk... As he is getting older, I can see that the hope for Dirk to win a championship becomes slim and Mavs will join lottery soon. Don't get me wrong, I like the team, but I love Dirk even more... I have tried this trade (Dirk for Aldridge+Blake+Przybilla) and it works well in espn trade machine. I think this trade is good for Dirk, for Mavs, and for the young portland team to be a champion team.. Dallas need good backup PG and Center, Aldridge is young and he can simply replace Dirk's PF position. On the other hand, Dirk can provide experience and leadership to Portland and join Oden and Roy to be the most scary trio in NBA... What do you guys think?

[Pointguard01]

Portland doesn't do it.

They are rebuilding and they dont need a 30 yr old star. They decline IMO.

[MainEv3nt]

no.

[DmoneyH3]

Diehard Blazer fan here....
Very fair trade..Portland needs to consolidate and Dirk could play 3rd fiddle to Roy and Oden, taking the pressure off of him to perform...but we like the prospect of having Aldridge and Oden for 10 years as opposed to Dirk and Oden (which would be a lethal combo) for say 3-5 years.

[soulhunter]

Diehard Blazer fan here....
Very fair trade..Portland needs to consolidate and Dirk could play 3rd fiddle to Roy and Oden, taking the pressure off of him to perform...but we like the prospect of having Aldridge and Oden for 10 years as opposed to Dirk and Oden (which would be a lethal combo) for say 3-5 years.

I can assure you that Dirk wouldn't be playing 3rd fiddle to roy and oden. He's in his prime as a player

[jwa1107]

POR is better off keeping Aldridge at PF next to Oden and letting them grow together

[Andre 2999]

I don't think any of them would necessarily be the 3rd fiddle, or for that matter the 1st fiddle. It would just be pass the ball around, if Dirk's open then shoot it, if Roy has a drive to the lane then take it, if Oden has an opening down low then dunk it, etc. True team ball

Personally, as a Blazer fan, I wouldn't do it, mainly because I feel we lose too much depth, and Nowitzki doesn't have as many years in him as Aldridge does (*knocks on wood), but it is incredibly tempting. I mean, that would be amazing trio though, especially with Outlaw, Webster, Fernandez, Frye, and our pick this year as our role players

[dirkforpres]

Dallas could and would get more for Dirk. Dallas would never trade Nowitzki while Mark Cuban is our owner though

[Devilzsidewalk]

you'd think Portland fans would've learned from Chicago, but there you have it

every good player doesn't necessarily become a great player and a team can't afford to pay 10 guys 8-12 million a year

[littlemav]

i don't think dallas is getting enough back for dirk (though aldridge is an excellent young talent), but dang if portland somehow pulled this off they would be scary

[Flash4thewin]

The Chicago analogy is good but Aldridge is way better than anyone from that chicago team.

[AZ BLAZER]

you'd think Portland fans would've learned from Chicago, but there you have it

every good player doesn't necessarily become a great player and a team can't afford to pay 10 guys 8-12 million a year

Chicago did not have a franchise center, a young, dominating PF or an all-star team leader guard. They have an undersized SG that is disgruntled coming off of the bench, a PG that had a massively bad year and two forwards that are young and raw that could develop. (EDIT: They also have a very talented SF that had an off year and most are unsure as to why. Was it the contract, injuries, bad team or just regression?) They gave their cap money to an aging vet who's game disappered quickly. Portland will take their chances with their youth leadining the team and bringing in some vets to play roles.

And yes, portland can afford to pay 10 guys 8-12 million a year. The owner of the Mavs is rich. The owner of the Blazers is filthy rich. But they will not be paying 10 guys that much. They very well could be paying their entire stating line up near max money in five years if Roy is the PG.

Dirk is a great player. I love his game and ability to take the game winner, but Portland is grooming Roy to be that guy. In 4-5 years Dirk could be a rotation/sixth man for a championship caliber team. That would be a great situation for him. For now he is Dallas' 30 year old star that they will want more for than young teams will give up for him. If he is to be traded, get the value before he gets too old.

[CBS7]

The Chicago analogy is good but Aldridge is way better than anyone from that chicago team.

I'd easily take Deng over him, especially if he could get back to his 06-07 form. They are pretty much the same player anyways, with Aldridge being a little taller.

[GermanFan120]

This summer, we don't have so many Mavs players who have trade value... Only Dirk and Bass I think... if the goal is still to win a championship, not mentioning how wild the west is, this mavs team has NO hope to achieve that goal... anyone disagree?

the best solution for the team is to have some players who have potential, and i don't think Dallas can trade JHo, Stack, EJ, George for someone like Pau Gasol, it just doesn't happen to city like Dallas (No offense)... Hense, we must trade our leader for someone who has a future, like Alridge. I love Dirk, i want him to win, if he goes to Portland, they will immediately become champion contender...

To all Portland fans, i envy your team have a lot of young guys, but it is not gonna work for many years to pursue championship becoz the Lakers looks young and better obviously, you guys need someone who can contribute to score and provide good advice, Dirk is humble, I am sure the chemistry will be good. Roy can still be the leader of the team, all Dirk does is to help him and Oden. and the trade offer i post is pretty fair, becoz Blake is overrated and you guys still have Jack. By having Oden and Fyre, you don't need Przybilla... I don't understand why this is not acceptable from Portland fans

[GermanFan120]

Team Rosters if this trade happens:

Dallas:

Kidd (Blake, Lue)
Terry (whoever signed or traded)
Jho (George)
Aldridge (Bass)
Dampier (Przybilla)

With Kidd and the better coach, the offense will have no problem, and two big men inside will make the defense a lot better

Portland:

Jack (whoever signed or traded)
Roy (Webster)
Outlaw (J.Jones)
Dirk (Frye and whoever signed or traded)
Oden (Frye and whoever signed or traded)

the idea is similar to Boston trade, getting big 3 first, not mentioning you still have Webster, Jack, Jones and Frye, and sign key players... with this lineup, Portland can be champion contender for the next 4 years becoz the way Dirk play will allow him to be good... Dirk is NOT shaq type of player, he has skills.

[AZ BLAZER]

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I'd easily take Deng over him, especially if he could get back to his 06-07 form. They are pretty much the same player anyways, with Aldridge being a little taller.

They are not close to the same player. Deng is a 6'8 w/shoes SF that some say is now 6'9. Aldridge is a 6'11.25 PF that is now a seven footer per the Blazers training staff (I do not know who confirmed Deng's height with the Bulls).

Deng is a driver/slasher and uses his height to post up smaller opponents. Aldridge has a great jump shot out to 18 feet and is developing a three point shot as well. But Portland is forcing him to play more on the low block and has gotten great results from that.

Which player you prefer is choice, but they are just no where near the same player.

[SalemStoner]

Dirk is a great player, and also one of my least(not a typo) favorite stars in the NBA.

That said, as much as I like Aldridge, Blake and Pryzbilla I don't know how Portland can pass on this deal. Yes Dirk turns 30 this year, and yes he's soft and not a paticularly good defender. However no one will be able to guard both him(outside) and Oden in the post. Dirk is an incredible player, a multiple all star and a former MVP in his prime. I also view Dirk as one of the few superstars in the league who would be happy to put his stats aside in order to win big, and I really believe Portland would win very very big with an Oden Dirk Roy core.

We could then keep Outlaw to backup the 3/4 - and eventually become our starter in Dirk's place, while having a clearly better PF starting over him.

The question is would you rather have a full career of LMA - who could simply just be an average PF or perhaps eventually a great one - or have 5-6 years of a guy who has already proven he's an MVP caliber player in his prime.

Honestly my biggest concern with this trade isn't the LMA portion of it, it's the Pryzbilla / Blake portion of it as I believe those two are a key component to our lockerroom's chemistry. They're 2/3 of the vets on our team last year who actually saw playing time. I believe their hardworking mindset has helped lead the team in general in that direction and I'd be worried we might lose too much of that in this trade. If Blake could be swapped for Jack or Pryzbilla for Frye I'd be alot more comfortable with it and it might actually benefit Dallas more to make a swap like that too.

[DmoneyH3]

To all Portland fans, i envy your team have a lot of young guys, but it is not gonna work for many years to pursue championship becoz the Lakers looks young and better obviously, you guys need someone who can contribute to score and provide good advice, Dirk is humble, I am sure the chemistry will be good. Roy can still be the leader of the team, all Dirk does is to help him and Oden. and the trade offer i post is pretty fair, becoz Blake is overrated and you guys still have Jack. By having Oden and Fyre, you don't need Przybilla... I don't understand why this is not acceptable from Portland fans

I just can't help but disagree. We can beat the Lakers. We have beat them 6 straight at the rose Garden and the 2 games we lost to them this year, Brandon Roy missed both. Kobe is not a spring chicken anymore. The only young talent I see on LA is Bynum..Gasol is prime age right now and Kobe is teetering on 31. If there is one team we match up with the best, it is la

[SabasRevenge!]

A few responses:

1. I really can't see Kevin Pritchard doing a trade like that. Dirk is giving up more than 7 years to Aldridge and 9 years to Oden. Aldridge fits perfectly with our time frame to have a championship window of 8+ years. I'm not saying Dirk isn't a superior player right now or that Aldridge will ever be as prolific a scorer, but LaMarcus fits better with our team.

2. Paul Allen is worth more than every other NBA owner combined. If the time comes he can pay 3-4 players max money if they are of that caliber.

3. +1 Dmoney! The Lakers are built around an almost 31 year old and almost 28 year old with Bynum in the wings. Kobe may play at a very high level well into his thirties and has probably grown into a more effective winning player this year, but they have maybe five good years of Kobe left.

4. CBS7 - Take the strong, athletic 7-footer with range who recently found his tough interior presence over the 6'8 wing (Deng). Can't wait for Fallout 3.

[CBS7]

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They are not close to the same player. Deng is a 6'8 w/shoes SF that some say is now 6'9. Aldridge is a 6'11.25 PF that is now a seven footer per the Blazers training staff (I do not know who confirmed Deng's height with the Bulls).

Deng is a driver/slasher and uses his height to post up smaller opponents. Aldridge has a great jump shot out to 18 feet and is developing a three point shot as well. But Portland is forcing him to play more on the low block and has gotten great results from that.

Which player you prefer is choice, but they are just no where near the same player.

They play an extremely similar style. I saw a lot of Aldridge on Texas and I watch him on the Blazers whenever I get a chance to see them play.

Deng has an extremely good midrange jumper, in fact he was hitting them at such a high clip prior to this year that he had some people say he had the best midrange jump shot in the NBA.

They are similar players, and even have very similar efficiency.

Aldridge - 48.4 FG%, 3.9 FTA/game, 1.164 pps, 48.4 eFG% , 76.2 FT%
Deng - 47.9 FG%, 4.2 FTA/game, 1.194 pps, 48.3 eFG%, 77.0 FT%

These are this years stats, keep in mind Deng regressed this year as well.