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Trade Dal-Phi
Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2008 7:48 am
by dtownmavs41
With Philadelphia having plenty of money to spend this off season, and with Andre Iguodala still not signed for the future, maybe they would be willing to hear an offer for him. We could trade Josh Howard, who basically had similar statistics last season to AI. Howard rebounded slightly better while Iguodala dished out more assists. This would though solve the sixers contract issues with AI. There were reports that he turned down a five year 57 million dollar contract last off season so he wants more than what they offered. Howard is making less than that and his contract is not 5 years long. So maybe the sixers can sign a big name player this off season and bring in Howard through a trade, while getting a pretty decent player 16th in the draft this summer. By doing this, they do not have to worry about locking up Iguodala to a big time contract while not playing like a #1 player. Also Dalembert would have to be in the contract financially, which would relieve Philadelphia from his big contract, making them players in the free agent market the summer of LBJ, Wade, and Bosh.
Phi Trades:
Andre Iguodala
Samuel Dalembert
Filler (Around 2 million dollar filler)
Dallas Trades:
Josh Howard
Jerry Stackhouse
This trade gives us the great defender in Iguodala, a young player for the future, and someone who would not have to be the #1 while being a great compliment to Jason Kidd.
Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2008 9:52 am
by italy_23
philly would not do this.
Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2008 10:06 am
by lukeridenour
you would have a hard time convincing j-ho for AI straight up, throw in j-ho+stack for AI and Dalebert you get a more lopsided trade than gasol for kwame.
Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2008 3:14 pm
by JES12
Argee with the above, but if it were offered, we'd take it and run.
Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2008 4:17 pm
by catalyst
Go easy on the new poster. Welcome, but expect some criticism for trades. I like AI, and have always like dalembert. Dalembert will be a lightning rod of criticism.
Re: Trade Dal-Phi
Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2008 5:04 pm
by your_dallas_mavericks
dtownmavs41 wrote:With Philadelphia having plenty of money to spend this off season, and with Andre Iguodala still not signed for the future, maybe they would be willing to hear an offer for him. We could trade Josh Howard, who basically had similar statistics last season to AI. Howard rebounded slightly better while Iguodala dished out more assists. This would though solve the sixers contract issues with AI. There were reports that he turned down a five year 57 million dollar contract last off season so he wants more than what they offered. Howard is making less than that and his contract is not 5 years long. So maybe the sixers can sign a big name player this off season and bring in Howard through a trade, while getting a pretty decent player 16th in the draft this summer. By doing this, they do not have to worry about locking up Iguodala to a big time contract while not playing like a #1 player. Also Dalembert would have to be in the contract financially, which would relieve Philadelphia from his big contract, making them players in the free agent market the summer of LBJ, Wade, and Bosh.
Phi Trades:
Andre Iguodala
Samuel Dalembert
Filler (Around 2 million dollar filler)
Dallas Trades:
Josh Howard
Jerry Stackhouse
This trade gives us the great defender in Iguodala, a young player for the future, and someone who would not have to be the #1 while being a great compliment to Jason Kidd.
For one of your first posts and first trades on here, I give you credit - that's a doozy! Hard to deny it would be awesome on the Mavs. Not sure the Sixers take back Stack though....
Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2008 5:23 pm
by dtownmavs41
The sixers have been looking for a low post scorer for the past few years, and with their cap room they would love to land elton brand as well as maybe draft a pf or center. So if they do this, I believe the sixers would rather just get rid of his contract however they could. Also what you have to understand with Iguodala is that if he is not willing to take a contract for less than 14 million a year, the sixers may have to watch him leave for nothing. This is why its possible they would trade for howard, just so they could get another talented player in return for iguodala. I know this is not a likely trade but it was an idea, I'm just trying to think of possibilities outside of the Artest, Marion, JO trades.
Here's Dalembert's contract:
08/09 09/10 10/11
10,520,000 11,360,000 12,200,000
Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2008 5:43 pm
by Darren
This is the best news from Dallas point of view. I know AI doesn't have a great playoff. That's the best compete-now trade. I am all for it. Then sign James Jones and a backup center and call it an offseason.
I'd even throw in a first or two for this one. Unfortunately, we gave them up to the lopsided J-Kidd trade.

Posted: Tue Jun 3, 2008 7:45 pm
by dirkforpres
Philly trading AI has about as much chance of happening as Atlanta trading Josh Smith. Dallas would have to give more than that
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 2:37 am
by A-Town Connection
I agree with everyone else, no way PHI does this
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 5:05 am
by from_ro_to_dirk
Yah..Philly would politely decline.
Too bad we didn't sign Nash way back when and then just drafted AI instead of Devin. Yes, yes, it was a trade but they drafted who we told them to. Would have gotten AI and Stack out of the Jamison trade! Then make the trades for Damp and JET like we did before...voila
Your 2005/2006 Mavs:
Nash JET
Finley Stack
JHO AI
Dirk Eddie? White guy?
Damp Bradley?
Oh well
Ps. dates could be wrong.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 5:38 am
by italy_23
I like it when people bring up new ideas and you did that, dtown. but I just dont see philly offering something like that. never. I would jump over this in a heartbeat, but it wont happen. unfortunately
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 1:28 pm
by blyent
As a Dallas fan I would be all over it. But I do agree with most of the responses that Philly would probably not do it.
I disagree with the poster that said that this would be more lopsided than the gasol for kwame trade. Hardly. Josh Howard is WAY more valuable than kwame. And I'm not so sure that AI is that much more valuable than Gasol.
But as we saw with the Laker-Memphis trade....Anything is possible.
Posted: Wed Jun 4, 2008 6:57 pm
by dtownmavs41
The thing is with this trade is its not just saying the sixers would rather have howard than AI because I know thats not true. They have to sign him to an extension if they plan on keeping him and Iguodala turned down a contract for about 11 million a year, so he wants more money than that. They could trade him for howard and others so they atleast get something for him without him just walking away. I know the sixers dont like spending big money and Iguodala is not a big money player. Sure he has had a few good seasons there but he is not a go to guy, and with Brand available they may want to spend the money on him while taking a pay cut for a player similar to AI. This trade may look lopsided but go check Iguodala's stats, its not like we are talking about Kobe or LeBron, he is an above average player that will make a few all star games in his career.
Posted: Thu Jun 5, 2008 5:45 am
by italy_23
like I said before. I would be all over this but I dont see the sixers do this. at the end of the day AI will get his money in philly, I'm almost certain of that. and in your trade not only iggy is coming to town but also dalembert who is no filler at all. dude had a great year with 10 & 10 and 2+ blocks. he would be a great addition but I dont see the sixers do this deal.
Posted: Thu Jun 5, 2008 6:09 am
by dtownmavs41
I don't believe philly will do this either, but this is all based on if Elton Brand is available for them and if they want to pursue him. I believe if the sixers get him for about 15mil/year then they will be looking to dump salaries somewhere and that points to dalembert (being their highest paid player as well as there longest contract). This could just be an option for the sixers if they choose to go after brand. We will see once the finals are over how everything sets up. I'll bring this topic back up again when Brand fields offers from other teams.
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:03 pm
by ckchen
dtownmavs41 wrote:I don't believe philly will do this either, but this is all based on if Elton Brand is available for them and if they want to pursue him. I believe if the sixers get him for about 15mil/year then they will be looking to dump salaries somewhere and that points to dalembert (being their highest paid player as well as there longest contract). This could just be an option for the sixers if they choose to go after brand. We will see once the finals are over how everything sets up. I'll bring this topic back up again when Brand fields offers from other teams.
Here's why your trade makes no sense:
Dalembert isn't a throw in - despite the size of his deal, there are very few serviceable centers his age and productivity that aren't being paid the same amount or more money. Philly won't give him away for nothing.
Secondly, and most importantly, you seem to think that somehow Iguodala will sign somewhere else for $14 million dollars. Where exactly is that, may I ask? The reason why Philly can take such a hard line with Iguodala is that he has ZERO options. Not only is a restricted free agent (and thus, Philly can match any offer that is made to him) - but NO OTHER TEAM has the cap space to make that kind of a huge offer. The reason why Philly is playing hardball is precisely because they no Iguodala can't command that kind of money from any other team. Philly has nothing to fear about Igodala leaving, so they won't make the trade for salary reasons when they literally hold all of the cards.
Lastly, Brand's status has little to do with it. First, he's almost definitely NOT going to declare for FA when no one (not even Philly) can match or beat his current salary with the Clippers with available cap space. Philly basically has the most cap space available of any team, and it's only a little more than $10M. Brand makes in the neighborhood of $14/$15M a year. He'll never get that kind of deal on the open market coming off of a serious injury, so he'll won't declare for FA.
That said, trading for Stackhouse doesn't improve the Sixer's salary cap situation at all. Stack is signed through 2010 - this doesn't help the Sixers increase any kind of offer for Brand, so how exactly does this help?
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:07 pm
by akademik
Iggy is their new savior....I wish he was in Dallas tho.
Re: Trade Dal-Phi
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:20 am
by sec-106
Never a consideration for PHI.