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Article on Mavs cap future

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:27 am
by from_ro_to_dirk
Hopefully this wasn't posted already...

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?STORY_ID=8963



Dallas Headed for Fiscal Sanity? With billionaire Mark Cuban footing the bill, the Dallas Mavericks have had absolutely astronomic payrolls in recent years. Including the salary of Michael Finley (finally dropping off the books at the end of this month), the Mavericks will have over $100 million on payroll - BEFORE luxury taxes.

Finley's salary ($18.6 million remaining) was voided via the one-time amnesty provision. His number isn't taxed, but Finley (now with the San Antonio Spurs) gets paid just the same.

While the Jason Kidd trade was costly, the future in Dallas may finally include fiscal sanity. This coming season will certainly be expensive but looking to the summers of 2009 and 2010, the Mavericks may be able to get under the salary cap relatively quickly.

Kidd is scheduled to make $21.4 million this coming season but that's his final year under contract. Even if he stays with the Dallas, Kidd isn't going to see anything close to that number again.

Jerry Stackhouse recently signed a new contract with the team but only $2 million of his 2009/10 salary is guaranteed. He does have an incentive in his contract that would guarantee the full $7.3 million - but that requires the Mavericks to win the NBA Finals next season.

Erick Dampier is owed a substantial $13.1 million in 2010 but that money isn't guaranteed unless Dampier becomes an All-Star or if he logs at least 2,100 minutes in 2009/10.

The final year on Josh Howard's deal (2010/11) is a team option, lacking any guarantees for the forwards' $12.3 million.

If the Mavericks are extra conservative the next couple of years, the only serious committed money in 2010 would be $21.5 million to Dirk Nowitzki and Jason Terry. That would give Dallas substantial cap room to chase potential big name free agents like LeBron James, Dwayne Wade and Amare Stoudemire.

Considering Josh Howard's struggles and ill-timed admission of recreational drug use, the Mavericks might even be able to get under the cap next summer if they turn around Howard for expiring contract(s).

It wasn't that long ago that Dallas gave up Antawn Jamison for what would be rookie Devin Harris. It's not outlandish to say history could repeat.

The Mavericks would just have to find a team able and willing to take on the $21.8 guaranteed to Howard over the next two seasons.

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:58 pm
by akademik
LBJ :pray:

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:52 pm
by mavsfoty
akademik wrote:LBJ :pray:


Every team is hoping for this but I think the Nets/Knicks have that covered.

I'd rather focus on someone more realistic like Bosh.

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:10 am
by JES12
This is not news. I brought this up just after the Kidd trade and many here told me to STFU.

Why is it big news now?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:06 am
by DDansby123
This is part of what the Kidd trade was about from the very beginning. Hell, even in December when the rumor first circulated, those of us who supported bringing Kidd back talked about how it would be fiscally responsible...and that was when I thought he'd only agree to a trade if we extended him for two years.

The only difference now is that one of the core, under-contract guys (Josh Howard) has proven to be far less reliable than anticipated, so plans to jettison some salary may be moved up. Trading the 2010 pick kind of puts a damper on the alternative of letting Kidd expire after this coming season, though.

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:43 am
by Teffer10
DDansby123 wrote:This is part of what the Kidd trade was about from the very beginning. Hell, even in December when the rumor first circulated, those of us who supported bringing Kidd back talked about how it would be fiscally responsible...and that was when I thought he'd only agree to a trade if we extended him for two years.

The only difference now is that one of the core, under-contract guys (Josh Howard) has proven to be far less reliable than anticipated, so plans to jettison some salary may be moved up. Trading the 2010 pick kind of puts a damper on the alternative of letting Kidd expire after this coming season, though.


I think the focus will be on 2010 so Kidd will probably resign for 2 years.

However, my strategy would be much different if I was cuban. I would start the rebuild process now if I had someone like LJ in my sights. If this team waits until 2011 to start rebuilding, LJ won't have any interest coming here if this team is at rock bottom. Money might lure him but what will that do in any rebuild effort...it will be another KG situation in Minny or current LJ situation in cleveland.
If we trade Dirk, Terry, Howard, Damp, and Stack now for a combination of draft picks, expiring contracts, and youth, we would be in development mode with some pretty high prospects between now and the time LJ would arrive. This development process would be important to the strategy to ensure that LJ has a solid young supporting cast.
The other factor is that we would be able to resign all of our draftees when their contracts end after we pay LJ bascially whatever he wants.
Another plus is that it would almost ensure us one of the top picks in next year's draft.

I say that we should start building the supporting structure for a guy like LJ. I think cuban has what it takes to pull it off if he doesn't keep trying to hang on to the hopes of winning with Dirk.

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:09 am
by arkuo
what's with the LBJ fever?

reading through the other team forums, every other team is clearing cap space to sign LBJ.. are we all sure that we could sign LBJ in 2011? clearing cap space now by trading away our players for draft picks and possible expirings, then pinning our championship hopes on prayers that LBJ will sign here isnt too appealing.. at least for me...

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:49 am
by italy_23
I dont get all this lbj thing. he wont come to dallas. most probably he will stay a cav for a looong time, if not, than I see him the ny area. nowhere else.
stop dreaming

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:51 pm
by JES12
Well, Dallas has one advantage that no other city has.

We already named a frwy for him. :D

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:02 pm
by Wilford Brimley
When is LBJ a FA?

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:47 pm
by Teffer10
italy_23 wrote:I dont get all this lbj thing. he wont come to dallas. most probably he will stay a cav for a looong time, if not, than I see him the ny area. nowhere else.
stop dreaming


I'm basically using LJ as an example...there will be some others. However, LJ has made it clear that he wants to be the richest athlete in history and Cuban is the type of owner that would help him get there. If the Mavs clear plenty of cap space to basically give him an unlimited amount, I'm sure that he would consider the Mavs over NY.

LJ doesn't have to be the guy but he will probably be the best available.

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:52 pm
by Teffer10
arkuo wrote:what's with the LBJ fever?

reading through the other team forums, every other team is clearing cap space to sign LBJ.. are we all sure that we could sign LBJ in 2011? clearing cap space now by trading away our players for draft picks and possible expirings, then pinning our championship hopes on prayers that LBJ will sign here isnt too appealing.. at least for me...


And you are pinning your hopes on what we are going to put on the court next season?

I think you are hoping for some miracle moves in the offseason.

I'd rather hang my hopes on a 26 year old LJ or someone close to his caliber in 2012 with a young supporting cast than on Kidd and Dirk next season with a bunch of washed up players.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:01 am
by arkuo
^^ the chances that we go in next season with the same lineup is bigger than our chances of signing LBJ straight up....

dont get me wrong, if cuban can move heaven and earth to have LBJ in a dallas jersey in 2011, im all for it.. but i just dont see it happening... just too good to be true maybe....

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:42 am
by Teffer10
arkuo wrote:^^ the chances that we go in next season with the same lineup is bigger than our chances of signing LBJ straight up....

dont get me wrong, if cuban can move heaven and earth to have LBJ in a dallas jersey in 2011, im all for it.. but i just dont see it happening... just too good to be true maybe....


Again, I'm not saying that it has to be LJ but am using him as an example. One of the draft picks could turn into a superstar and we could sign 1 or 2 FAs of lesser talent.

I'm not sure which is more of a pipe dream...winning a championship in the Dirk era or signing LJ in 2011.