Solid SG

[dtownmavs41]

The mavs could look to trade with the Detroit Pistons since Joe Dumars said everyone on the team is available (except Stuckey I believe). I know the pistons are more likely to move Rasheed or Billups but with a trade centered around Carmelo the Piston would likely include Prince with Wallace and the Nuggets would likely throw in Nene to even it out. If this happens first, then I believe the mavs could look to be the suitor of another trade from the pistons.

Mavs Trade:
Josh Howard
Cash (Around 1 mil would equal the 125% rule)

Pistons Trade:
Richard Hamilton

This works because we are looking to move Howard, and we would pick up a very solid SG that can contribute defensively. Hamilton is also one of the best players in the league to come off screens and shoot, as well as an excellent three point and free throw shooter. Hamilton would fit in perfectly with the system Carlisle wants to install here. Under Carlisle, Hamilton had one of his best years. He scored more points in a season than he has anytime in his career and got to the free throw line about 100 times more than his second best year.

This trade works for Detroit because they are looking to change the scenery around there and Howard can help do so. He is a much better rebounder than Hamilton and will help out their big men in this catergory. Also if the get Carmelo then they do not need Hamilton as much because Carmelo is more of a creator and scorer than he is stand around with the ball while Hamilton runs around screens. This way Howard can help rebound Melo's misses and he is a slasher that Carmelo can dish it off to if needed.

This trade is only a scenario IMO if Detroit trades Prince and it would work better if they get Carmelo but it could work if they trade for someone else as well.

[Rand10]

Kidd
Terry
Howard

>

Kidd
Hamilton / Terry
scrub

[dirkforpres]

Josh Howard doesnt have near the value of Richard Hamilton... Hell, I dont even think Detroit would trade Prince for J-Ho.

[dtownmavs41]

They would definitely take Howard for Prince.
Prince:
13.2 ppg
4.9 rpg
3.3 apg
.5 spg
.4 bpg
.448 fg%
.768 ft%
.363 3p%

Howard:
19.9 ppg
7.0 rpg
2.2 apg
.8 spg
.4 bpg
.455 fg%
.813 ft%
.319 3p%

Clearly after watching the horrible playoffs prince had, they need someone who is atleast a threat to score if they want to get back to the finals.

[JES12]

Josh Howard doesnt have near the value of Richard Hamilton... Hell, I dont even think Detroit would trade Prince for J-Ho.

They would be dumb to pass up Howard for either of those.

Plain and simple!!!!

Howard > Hamilton
Howard >>> Prince

[Darren]

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They would be dumb to pass up Howard for either of those.

Plain and simple!!!!

Howard > Hamilton
Howard >>> Prince

Calm down guy. I understand the sentiments and loves on Josh. But I don't consider Josh's a clearly-better player against those 2. Value-wise. I think it's better the wait and see how Josh responds with the new coach.

[Teffer10]

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They would be dumb to pass up Howard for either of those.

Plain and simple!!!!

Howard > Hamilton
Howard >>> Prince

Calm down guy. I understand the sentiments and loves on Josh. But I don't consider Josh's a clearly-better player against those 2. Value-wise. I think it's better the wait and see how Josh responds with the new coach.

I think you are right...Howard will probably get his chance with Carlisle but I have a feeling that he will be in the same situation that Harris was in around TDL if he doesn't take his game to another level in the first half of the season.

[HMFFL]

Rip is the one player I don't see Joe trading. Not only is he a team player (Like most of the Pistons) but he's also the purest shooter they have. I don't think Josh Howard will cut it anyway even if he's two years younger.

[MainEv3nt]

i hope we keep josh howard. one bad playoffs doesnt mean we need to get rid of him.

[SendEm]

Hamilton and Prince are far better than Howard. Prince is one of the best defenders in the league. It's difficult to believe that a person who watches basketball would ever consider Howard better than Prince. If all you do is play fantasy basketball and look at statistics I could see how you could make the MISTAKE of thinking that Josh Howard is better than T. Prince.

[dtownmavs41]

[quote="SendEm"]Hamilton and Prince are far better than Howard. Prince is one of the best defenders in the league. It's difficult to believe that a person who watches basketball would ever consider Howard better than Prince. If all you do is play fantasy basketball and look at statistics I could see how you could make the MISTAKE of thinking that Josh Howard is better than T. Prince.[/quote]

I don't know if you have ever played basketball or if you just watch, or maybe you are one of the people that think Josh Howard really hurt himself with the discussion of smoking weed in the off season. If you knew ANYTHING about basketball you know that its not just offense and not just defense. Josh Howard is a much more complete player than Prince. Prince may be better defensively, but not in all situations. He will hustle after the play and block a shot every now and then and stays infront of his man a little better, but you can't think he is a much better defender. Basketball is a team sport and when you have a very good team defense, it can make people look much better at defense. It helps that all 5 on the court for them are solid defenders and the mavs cannot say that about their team. Howard averages better statistics defensively than Prince, which shows he blocks more shots and gets more steals, and if he played in Detroit I guarantee he would be just as effective. On the other side of the ball, Prince is an awful offensive player. The only weapon Prince has is he can post up, but he is too small to post bigger forwards. There is no way that you can say he is better than Howard. Maybe you have been spending the off season with Howard smoking calidro.

[your_dallas_mavericks]

I agree that we need a shooter, slasher, defender; but don't we already have that in Josh Howard? Sure, he doesn't play SG as much as he plays SF; but he is what we are looking for...

Re-sign Wright and we have our SG for the future. Keep Howard. He will be fine.

[SendEm]

Josh Howard's choke artist performance in this years poostseason has cemented him as a lower level player NEVER to be mentioned with the likes of T. Prince. Prince who is the superior 3 point shooter, passer, defender, AND CLUTCH PLAYER. Howard fades in the clutch. Again, he came up EXTREMELY small in this years playoffs. Basketball is indeed a team game therefore the Pistons do not need Howard who is a SG/SF that can't hit the 3 point shot. Now a Kevin Martin for Prince or Hamilton trade would more likely interest the Pistons but a 28 year old Howard coming off of a laughable playoff performance is not an option for a smart GM like Dumars. Josh Howard's value has depreciated considerably. He shot .292%FG and .100%3pt with P.Stojakovic guarding him? You mean to tell me that "The Great Josh Howard" couldn't torch the defense of P.Stojakovic, Mo Pete, and Pargo?

Nobody wants Josh Howard after this years playoffs. Dallas is stuck with him until he improves his value with his play on the court.

[Rand10]

I think it's pretty clear Howard's playoff performance this year was a fluke. Between his injuries, personal problems (deaths in the family), and the Kidd trade, he had a lot to deal with. That doesn't excuse him, but I'm I don't think there's any doubt he'll bounce back.

As far as the Prince-Howard comparison, let me know when he Tayshaun can put up 21 and 10 in a playoff series. Prince is a solid player, but when he's right Howard is just on another level.

[Pointguard01]

Before the Kidd trade, Josh Howard was without a doubt the superior player to Tayshaun Prince. With the last few months, espically the playoffs, his value is definately in limbo, but assuming Howard comes back strong next year, he without a doubt will continue to be the better player than Prince. The whole "I smoke pot" stuff has absolutely nothing to do with who the better player is. It may hurt his value for trades, but doesnt make him any less of a player.

[SendEm]

Howard's numbers went down after the Kidd trade because Dallas lost a scorer AND let Howard handle the ball less on the perimeter requiring Howard to become a better outside shooter and cutter/finisher instead of the more "off the dribble" player that he was before Kidd's arrival. Taking Harris off of the court allowed teams to focus more on Howard and cheat off of Kidd. Howard would probably put up better numbers if Kidd were just waived from the team tomorrow but that would make Dallas a weak team. Until Kidd leaves, Josh Howard will NEVER be the player that he was with Harris and Dirk. Josh can't shoot the ball well enough or be a great enough finisher to benefit from playing with Kidd like he should. Howard is more of a half court take his man off of the dribble type one on one player, that's not best when a team has a non scoring PG that is a floor general passer. Dallas needs a spot up 3 point shooter at SG that can play above the rim. Better yet, Dallas needs Kidd to start making those layups because even if Dallas had Reggie Miller in his prime shooting the ball the Mavs would still lose because teams will continue to cheat off of Kidd as he misses easy shots and layups.