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Dallas calls some free agents 

Post#1 » by arkuo » Thu Jul 3, 2008 1:41 am

per hoopshype...

Other unrestricted free agents are forward Eduardo Najera and guard Yakhouba Diawara. A source said Dallas has called Najera's agent, Dan Fegan, and New Jersey, according to media reports, also has.

Diawara said he hasn't heard from the Nuggets in a month and doesn't know if they have any interest in keeping him. Agent Buono Ndiaye said Dallas, San Antonio, Miami and Memphis have called about Diawara, who confirmed he will play for France this summer in European Championship qualifying games.


najera and diawara...

if eddie comes back to dallas, he'd most likely be dirk's backup at PF.... does that mean bass is expendable? considering that he has the best trade value out of all our players right now with the exception of the uberman...

if a JET + bass + stack package could land us a starting SG/SF, i'd be happy with our MLE splurge on diop.... maybe that package for artest and kenny thomas... just throwing something out there...

C- dampier / diop
PF- dirk / najera
SF- artest / george / wright
SG- howard / jones / green
PG- kidd / barea

that team should work wonders with carisle at the helm....
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Post#2 » by TheLSUMaverick » Thu Jul 3, 2008 2:29 am

I doubt this would happen...The mavs are now stout at the 4 (dirk/bass/probably pops) and 5 (damp/diop) i love it those two positions right now...I would love it if we could bring in artest and have his amazing defense at 3 this would make us very strong defensively. However, with the loss of Bass it makes us soft at the 4 and it would create a big hole at the 1 leaving barea behind Kidd. If we could sign a good true point guard this would be very very nice.

Now with all that bull that i just said...I would like it if it would happen we just really need to adress the back up point guard position

I dont see bass being traded unless a deal like this can go down i'm sick of hearing everyone say that Bass should be packaged.

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Post#3 » by Captain_Obvious » Thu Jul 3, 2008 2:29 am

Maybe i'm alone with this but i really like Jason Terry at the 2. He has the quickness to cover other PGs when Kidd gets outrun. And offensively he is an elite shooter, you want that with Kidd on the floor.

The issue is Josh Howard, when he gets asked to take some of the scoring load he becomes a blackhole. Josh should look closely at what Paul Pierce did in the finals. That was a blueprint for helping his team winning. Making his shoots, driving to the hoop and kicking the ball out for open shots. This would be so sick for this team. Thats why i want a Vince for Josh trade to happen, Vince can do this exactly.

Najera would be a nice addition, but it would be tough to get him enough minutes if Bass doesnt get dealt. I dont think the min is enough for him. Diawara, we have enough prospects for the 2 right now. No interest fom my side.
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Post#4 » by JES12 » Thu Jul 3, 2008 5:42 am

If Dallas gets Artest, then Bass is expendable because Diop will take his center minutes and Artest can take the backup PF minutes.
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Post#5 » by dirkforpres » Thu Jul 3, 2008 5:54 am

+1 to JES12.

Artest probably has the best possibility of coming to Dallas out of any big name out there. JET and Bass should get it done. But that leaves a hole at SG.
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Post#6 » by italy_23 » Thu Jul 3, 2008 7:07 am

i would love artest here but doubt it will actually happen. and diawara?? wtf! with bass here I dont need najera as well
if najera and diawara is all the mavs are calling than lets forget it about next season. they better have a trade in the makings because the team as constructed now wont get too far. I'm still shocked that they gave the full MLE to diop
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Post#7 » by JapanAir21 » Thu Jul 3, 2008 8:16 am

Captain_Obvious wrote:Maybe i'm alone with this but i really like Jason Terry at the 2. He has the quickness to cover other PGs when Kidd gets outrun. And offensively he is an elite shooter, you want that with Kidd on the floor.

The issue is Josh Howard, when he gets asked to take some of the scoring load he becomes a blackhole. Josh should look closely at what Paul Pierce did in the finals. That was a blueprint for helping his team winning. Making his shoots, driving to the hoop and kicking the ball out for open shots. This would be so sick for this team. Thats why i want a Vince for Josh trade to happen, Vince can do this exactly.

Najera would be a nice addition, but it would be tough to get him enough minutes if Bass doesnt get dealt. I dont think the min is enough for him. Diawara, we have enough prospects for the 2 right now. No interest fom my side.


You're not the only one, I am infatuated with JET as well. I realize he's expendable if we have an upgrade, but we haven't gone through with a deal that would land us there.

As for Artest, Josh could move down to the two (he's rather big, but I think having big guys that can run is an advantage, look at the Celtics last year, they had a fairly quick/big team, but they were very efficient).

Kidd
Josh
Artest
Dirk
Diop/Dampier

As our starting five, it wouldn't be bad, but we'd have lack of depth in the 1, and 4. As much as I don't like JET running the point as I do Kidd or did Harris, it's better than JJB. If we can re-sign Lue (probably not), than I'm all for moving JET. Plus we'd lose Bass. I actually think if we packaged Stack+Jones+Bass, it MIGHT work. If we include JET, I'd at least like to get another PG in return, or a decent forward (not Malik Allen-esque).

If we could, I'd package JET+Josh+Bass for Kevin Martin+Artest, but I doubt the Kings would want to give up on Martin so early.
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Re: Dallas calls some free agents 

Post#8 » by italy_23 » Thu Jul 3, 2008 8:28 am

it would be a good trade but the kings wont let martin go.
I think that starting 5 looks good, backup 4 doesnt bother me cause in the playoffs dirk will play 44 mins.
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Post#9 » by JapanAir21 » Thu Jul 3, 2008 8:38 am

That's the only thing, it'd be hard for the Kings to let Martin go. Having Martin would cure all of our worries in SG, and he can slash to the basket as well, and we'd have no problems with our line-up, 1-4 would be good, and Damp/Diop tandem would be sufficient. It would also free up some more PT for our young guys that will make the roster (hopefully...).
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Post#10 » by italy_23 » Thu Jul 3, 2008 9:07 am

yes but that is still a pipedream. unfortunately.
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Post#11 » by arkuo » Thu Jul 3, 2008 9:19 am

with artest coming out to the media yet again, airing his sentiments over regretting not opting out, i wouldnt be surprised if he would get dealt even before the season starts... now if sacto were already willing to part with artest, and if dallas would be willing to take on kenny thomas' contract to get artest, id be all over that deal...

regarding backup PG duties, if indy buys out tinsley to make room for rebuilding, i guess having carisle on board would help presuade tinsley to take backup minutes...

C- dampier / diop
PF- dirk / bass / pops
SF- howard / wright / r.terry
SG- jet / jones / foster
PG- kidd / tinsley / barea

that's already a pretty deep team.. although experience is still questionable with the young guys off the bench.... with dallas appearing in the news just calling najera and diawara, while other teams have been going after brand, maggette, baron and arenas, i have to say that i doubt we'll be trading for a big name player anytime soon... i do hope the mavs FO proves me wrong though....
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Post#12 » by italy_23 » Thu Jul 3, 2008 9:27 am

if tinsley gets bought out by indy, is it possible for to aquire him? I mean, we have spent our whole MLE and are waaay over the cap. are there other possibilities?
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Post#13 » by arkuo » Thu Jul 3, 2008 9:39 am

^^ if carlisle could persuade him to play backup to kidd for the vet minimum, or the LLE (?) i'd be all over it... its a low risk - high reward type of thing... im no pacer fan, but if im not mistaken, tinsley's best years were done when carlisle was at the helm... if he doesnt mind playing for his former coach again, behind a hall of famer, id be alright with that... for the right price of course...
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Re: Dallas calls some free agents 

Post#14 » by MainEv3nt » Thu Jul 3, 2008 1:48 pm

i hurd we might sign matt barnes.
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Post#15 » by Darren » Thu Jul 3, 2008 2:14 pm

Dallas is looking for Dan Dickau or McLeod. They sign Gerald Green and talking with Diawara.
The Mavs is aggressively looking for PF as well.

I assume they are working on a trade with JET, Stack, and Bass as main pieces to a big trade. You guys are right. It could be something around Artest and big contracts. Besides Diop, they don't talk with any center. They're some possibly Dampier may be part of the trade as well.

The following trade works in trade tracker.

Dallas trades:
Erick Dampier, Jerry Stackhouse, Jason Terry, Brandon Bass, and right to whoever.

Sacramento trades:
Brad Miller, Kenny Thomas and Ron Artest

Mavs roster:
C - Diop - Miller / Pops
PF - Dirk - Thomas / FA
SF - Artest - DG / AW
SG - JoHo - Green / EJ
PG - Kidd - Dickau / JJB

Scenario:
1. If we can sign Diawara, EJ would retire.
2. We would sign the best summer leaguer at PF as third-string.
3. We might pick up a d-leaguer PG if this guy play better than Dickau and McLeod. But it's unlikely.

Kings roster:
C - Damp - Hawes / Moore
PF - Thompson - Rahim / S.Williams
SF - Garcia - Bass / Draft right
SG - Martin - Salmons / Draft right
PG - JET - Douby / Singletary

Scenario:
1. If Beno agrees to resign (which is unlikely, they won't sign Singletary.
2. Shan Foster, Patrick Ewing, Rayshawn Terry, Renaldo Seibutis and Steve Logan would compete for the spots at 2 and 3. RAT and SF would likely win.

That explained why the Kings pick Jason Thompson instead of the PG available.
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Re: Dallas calls some free agents 

Post#16 » by Dentor » Thu Jul 3, 2008 2:19 pm

We don't have the LLE, it's bi-annual and we already used it on Eddie Jones last year.
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Post#17 » by Captain_Obvious » Thu Jul 3, 2008 2:26 pm

Darren wrote:Dallas is looking for Dan Dickau or McLeod. They sign Gerald Green and talking with Diawara.
The Mavs is aggressively looking for PF as well.

I assume they are working on a trade with JET, Stack, and Bass as main pieces to a big trade. You guys are right. It could be something around Artest and big contracts. Besides Diop, they don't talk with any center. They're some possibly Dampier may be part of the trade as well.

The following trade works in trade tracker.

Dallas trades:
Erick Dampier, Jerry Stackhouse, Jason Terry, Brandon Bass, and right to whoever.

Sacramento trades:
Brad Miller, Kenny Thomas and Ron Artest

Then, Dallas roster would becomes:
C - Diop - Miller / Pops
PF - Dirk - Thomas / Summer-leaguer
SF - Artest - DG / AW
SG - JoHo - Green / EJ
PG - Kidd - Dickau / JJB

Kenny is on a better contract than the JET from their POV. I think our FO is not going to trade Terry, first because hes slowing down and his contract is going up, second he gets big bucks and third he's a Mavs at heart, a great human being and a team captain. You dont trade such players, it makes you look bad IMO.

I do Erick, Stack and Bass for Miller and Ron. Throw in S/T Wright to make numbers work and to give them more youth. Of course i do it only if Najera or Barnes comes here and thats a big if.

Btw i really dont get warm at the idea of Josh playing SG. I rather start Foster than let Josh become an even bigger blackhole.
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Post#18 » by Darren » Thu Jul 3, 2008 2:30 pm

Dallas is looking for Dan Dickau or McLeod. They sign Gerald Green and talking with Diawara.
The Mavs is aggressively looking for PF as well.

I assume they are working on a trade with JET, Stack, and Bass as main pieces to a big trade. You guys are right. It could be something around Artest and big contracts. Besides Diop, they don't talk with any center. They're some possibly Dampier may be part of the trade as well.

The following trade works in trade tracker.

Dallas trades:
Erick Dampier, Jerry Stackhouse, Jason Terry, Brandon Bass, and right to whoever.

Sacramento trades:
Brad Miller, Kenny Thomas and Ron Artest

Mavs roster:
C - Diop - Miller / Pops
PF - Dirk - Thomas / FA
SF - Artest - DG / AW
SG - JoHo - Green / EJ
PG - Kidd - Dickau / JJB

Scenario:
1. If we can sign Diawara, EJ would retire.
2. We would sign the best summer leaguer at PF as third-string.
3. We might pick up a d-leaguer PG if this guy play better than Dickau and McLeod. But it's unlikely.

That explains why they say Shan Foster can shoot won't guarantee a spot on the team.


Kings roster:
C - Damp - Hawes / Moore
PF - Thompson - Rahim / S.Williams
SF - Garcia - Bass / Draft right
SG - Martin - Salmons / Draft right
PG - JET - Douby / Singletary

Scenario:
1. If Beno agrees to resign (which is unlikely, they won't sign Singletary.
2. Shan Foster, Patrick Ewing, Rayshawn Terry, Renaldo Seibutis and Steve Logan would compete for the spots at 2 and 3. RAT and SF would likely win.

That explained why the Kings pick Jason Thompson instead of the PG available.
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Re: Dallas calls some free agents 

Post#19 » by JES12 » Thu Jul 3, 2008 2:30 pm

Captain_Obvious wrote:I do Erick, Stack and Bass for Miller and Ron. Throw in S/T Wright to make numbers work and to give them more youth. Of course i do it only if Najera or Barnes comes here and thats a big if.


I'd do that even without Najera nad Barnes.

Miller / Diop
Dirk / Miller / George
Artest / George
Howard / Foster/ Green
Kidd / Terry
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Post#20 » by Darren » Thu Jul 3, 2008 3:04 pm

Another scenario could be the backup plan with New York. It works in trade checker.

Dallas trades:
Erick Dampier, Jerry Stackhouse, Jason Terry, and Brandon Bass

New York trades:
Eddy Curry, Jamal Crawford, Malik Rose and 2009 top 3 protected pick.


Dallas roster:
C - Diop - Curry / Pops
PF - Dirk - Rose / FA*
SF - JoHo - DG / RAT
SG - AW - Crawford / SF
PG - Kidd - Dickau / JJB

* the best performer at summer league.
Another scenario could be a pre-arranged return of Nick Fazekas.

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