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Dirk - "Avery Ran a Dictatorship" 

Post#1 » by catalyst » Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:19 pm

Dallas Mavericks' Nowitzki reflects on 'tough year'

12:58 AM CDT on Friday, September 26, 2008

By EDDIE SEFKO / The Dallas Morning News
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The blunt question made Dirk Nowitzki uncomfortable. But it didn't necessarily catch him by surprise, like he knew it was coming sooner or later:

If Avery Johnson was still coaching the Dallas Mavericks, would Nowitzki still be on the team?
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It was more than just a rumor last season that Nowitzki had grown tired of Johnson's system and coaching style. But was it really as bad as the whispers made it sound?

"I had a good time with Avery," Nowitzki said Thursday. "But sometimes I wish we had communicated a little more. We all know Avery ran a little dictatorship here. I think this league is still a league of players, not a coaches league."

To the players, that's what Johnson forgot. And that's what rubbed players the wrong way in the end. Nowitzki, sporting a fresh buzz cut with no trace of the Olympic rings he shaved into his hair before the Beijing Games, is back in Dallas for training camp, which begins with physical exams over the weekend, media day Monday and the first set of practices Tuesday.

Nowitzki touched on a variety of topics, including his contract situation and, of course, the coaching change.

Johnson's regimented style, along with his lack of offensive creativity, were two of the things that wore down Nowitzki and his teammates.

Dirk Nowitzki said he wished he and former Dallas Mavericks coach Avery Johnson communicated more.

"You know me, I'm not always on the edge," Nowitzki said about whether he and Johnson could have lasted another season together. "I usually keep stuff on the inside.

"It was a tough year for me, I've got to admit. I had a lot of bad games in November and December. And after that, I got to playing better, and Jason [Kidd] really helped my game after the All-Star Game. But it was an up-and-down year, and up-and-down years are never fun. I had to play hurt for us to get to the playoffs, and that obviously is not what we play for."

And as for the Mavericks' offense that slowed to a crawl, particularly in the playoffs, Nowitzki said:

"Avery had a really strong will of what should go on out there, and he controlled the game a lot. I don't think there was enough movement going on. People were just sitting on our stuff, especially in the playoffs. We just couldn't score enough.

"I don't think we got enough easy stuff, either on the break or on cuts. Everything was post-ups or contested shots. It wasn't easy. I don't want to use this year to bash Avery. He took us to the Finals and did a phenomenal job. He came in and brought fire and enthusiasm."

Nowitzki said he is excited about the Mavericks' prospects this season under Rick Carlisle. He already has been impressed with Carlisle's communication skills and his commitment to a more uptempo offense.

Nowitzki also said that he's eager for something else: being a free agent. He can opt out of his contract after 2009-10 or play it out through 2010-11. He said he has no intention of signing an extension next summer when he is eligible to do so.

"I kind of want to see what's going to happen," said Nowitzki, 30. "I don't want to commit until I'm 35 or 36 and then [find out] I don't want to play that long. But saying that now, everything is kind of out in the open. We'll see how we play this year and hopefully bring some of the fun back.

"Once I play these next three years, then maybe I've lost a step and I'm not quick enough anymore to play with these guys because there are so many athletes here."

Nowitzki added that another factor regarding his long-term future is weighing on him: He doesn't want to play when he no longer is effective.

"I'd love to finish my career here in Dallas," he said. "Hopefully, we can win the championship here in the next three years and it'll be great. And if not, we all have to keep our eyes and ears open to what's going on.

"I figure I have three more years now. If we get a championship and I really don't want to play anymore, maybe I'm done. I think the worst thing that athletes can do is play too long and at the end, look slow and don't look right and they lose some of their reputation. I don't want to do that. I want to still play when it's fun."

THOUGHTS FROM DIRK

On the possibility of Kobe Bryant or LeBron James going to Europe:

"I don't believe that."

On him perhaps playing in Europe:

"There's one big club in Germany. They've been asking me every year. Actually, the owner's dream is to have me in uniform once before I retire. I'm sure he's going to do everything he can to make that happen before my career's over."

On Josh Howard:

"He's not a bad guy. He just sometimes says the wrong things at the wrong times. But knowing him for five or six years now, he's a good guy. People are trying to make him a bad guy now, but I can for sure say that he's fun to be around, he's a good kid and he cares. Sometimes he just has to learn how to control himself and keep some stuff to himself. Hopefully, coming into training camp and saying all the right things and working hard and hopefully starting off great will make all this go away and he'll have a great year here and a great career."



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Most direct and critical I have ever seen Dirk talk about a coach. Good stuff. I think if we saw dirk be more open and opinionated, it might enhance his stature around the league. Not Barkley like, but have some chops.
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Post#2 » by Dinty Moore » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:33 pm

If the Mavs don't like controlling coaches they're in for a real surprise with Carlisle. He'll go on and on about how he isn't going to micro-manage games and let the players do what they do but when it comes to game time he'll call EVERY SINGLE PLAY.
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Post#3 » by catalyst » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:57 pm

Dinty Moore wrote:If the Mavs don't like controlling coaches they're in for a real surprise with Carlisle. He'll go on and on about how he isn't going to micro-manage games and let the players do what they do but when it comes to game time he'll call EVERY SINGLE PLAY.


That is what I always recall hearing about him when the players revolted.
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Post#4 » by HMFFL » Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:39 pm

Dinty Moore,

Your right. The thing is, I doubt he's going to be able to control Jason Kidd and Jason Terry. Dirk may follow what Carlisle wants, but it's going to come down to the point, and I don't see Jason Kidd tolerating it.
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Post#5 » by JD45 » Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:21 am

HMFFL wrote:Dinty Moore,

Your right. The thing is, I doubt he's going to be able to control Jason Kidd and Jason Terry. Dirk may follow what Carlisle wants, but it's going to come down to the point, and I don't see Jason Kidd tolerating it.


Although Carlisle has a great rep as a tactician. I don't think it was so much that Avery was a dictator as much that the offense he dictated was not effective in the playoffs. I have doubts that Kidd and Carlisle are a good fit because of the control issue, but Harris might have been. It is going to be a huge challenge to Carlisle to make this work.
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Post#6 » by JES12 » Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:39 am

All we need is two good years before the players revolt against Carslisle.
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Post#7 » by mffl_14 » Sat Sep 27, 2008 4:30 am

I could care less if our players dont like the coach. It's when the coach makes stupid decisions thats when I get frustrated with the coach. I think to me the biggest headline in the whole story was the topic of opting out of his contract. I dont even want to begin to think of the post Dirk era. The 90's were too brutal !
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Post#8 » by italy_23 » Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:30 am

mffl_14 wrote:I could care less if our players dont like the coach. It's when the coach makes stupid decisions thats when I get frustrated with the coach. I think to me the biggest headline in the whole story was the topic of opting out of his contract. I dont even want to begin to think of the post Dirk era. The 90's were too brutal !


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Post#9 » by SaintofKillers » Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:32 am

I don't really care if Carlisle is a huge douche bag that micro-manages to the letter, I'm just happy that we have a REAL coach. When it comes down to it, Carlisle has plays; Avery didn't.
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Post#10 » by JD45 » Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:54 pm

SaintofKillers wrote:I don't really care if Carlisle is a huge douche bag that micro-manages to the letter, I'm just happy that we have a REAL coach. When it comes down to it, Carlisle has plays; Avery didn't.


It is easy to forget that the Mavs got a lot better with Avery, than with Nellie. Avery just got overconfident and didn't continue to develop himself. But overall, he did a great job with the Mavs.
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Post#11 » by BarneyGumble » Thu Oct 2, 2008 9:28 pm

JD45 wrote:
SaintofKillers wrote:I don't really care if Carlisle is a huge douche bag that micro-manages to the letter, I'm just happy that we have a REAL coach. When it comes down to it, Carlisle has plays; Avery didn't.


It is easy to forget that the Mavs got a lot better with Avery, than with Nellie. Avery just got overconfident and didn't continue to develop himself. But overall, he did a great job with the Mavs.


I'm sorry, I dont buy this for a second. I know, I am a Jazz fan and my opinion carries no weight here....but as a basketball fan you cant help but notice and pay attention to the Mavs the last few years as they have been contenders.

Nellie CREATED that team. He had them rolling. They were the best team in basketball even when Nash left. Avery stepped into the perfect situation. Maybe not as good as Phil inheriting Kobe and Shaq, but definately the best coaching job available at the time. And he lost a 2-0 lead in the Finals.


Then he lost a round 1 to an 8 seed.


Those two FACTS right there prove the Mavs did NOT get better under Avery. They simply stayed good, but also they developed a reputation for choking...which is NOT good (ask TMac fans...)
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Post#12 » by JES12 » Thu Oct 2, 2008 9:31 pm

I tend to agree to DWill_daShizzle.

The players tuned out Nellie's mad scientist crap and gave up. Avery refocused them. Avery because worse than Nellie ever was. Now we need a new face again and maybe we get another 67 win team.....oh, wait, we have Kidd instead of Harris...maybe we get a 52 win team.
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Post#13 » by JD45 » Fri Oct 3, 2008 12:18 am

If Nellie thought the Mavs were headed to the Finals he would have never left. He has a great coaching record, but has never coached in the Finals. He would not walk away from that no matter how much he hated Cuban.
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