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marbury

Posted: Sat Nov 1, 2008 1:43 am
by chrisjacob
is marbury available?what do you think...2nd string guard....

Re: marbury

Posted: Sat Nov 1, 2008 2:01 am
by Darren
If the price is JET, I'm all for it. We can at least get some cap relief if it doesn't work. Beyond the price, no.

Re: marbury

Posted: Sat Nov 1, 2008 2:11 am
by JES12
I love Terry the person. I hate Marbury the person.

But, I'd do Terry + Stack + George (for salary) for Marbury + min paid scrub (Roberson)

I have a small glimpse of hope that in a new environment, Starbury and be the backup PG and limited minute SG after his rust wares off.

Re: marbury

Posted: Sat Nov 1, 2008 5:31 pm
by dirkforpres
I think we could probably get Marbury for cheaper than JET... Maybe Stack and a filler? I mean, they seem like they will give him up for anything.

Re: marbury

Posted: Sat Nov 1, 2008 5:56 pm
by italy_23
marbury, really?
only for stack, nobody else

Re: marbury

Posted: Sat Nov 1, 2008 7:51 pm
by Xenopathic Investigator
I think we can trade stack + 2009-2010 pick for marbury + curry.

Mavs upside: solid 3rd string center,3rd Scoring threat behind dirk and howard and a playmaker at the end of games.

Downside:Marbury is a ball hog and doesn't get along with coaches having sway(PT,running the offense, matchup strategy etc) over him(so I heard :D ).

Upside for the Knick: D,antoni hates marbury.... enough said about that. He's not using him so he's an expensive empty roster spot. At least if you trade him you can waive stack get stephon's/eddie curry's contract off the payrole while having a first round pick later on to bargain with.

Re: marbury

Posted: Sat Nov 1, 2008 7:52 pm
by Xenopathic Investigator
italy_23 wrote:marbury, really?
only for stack, nobody else



waive stack get him back. Wash rince repeat. 8-)

Re: marbury

Posted: Sun Nov 2, 2008 5:51 am
by JES12
The last 4 posts make no sense.

Jerry Stackhouse = $7,000,000
Stephon Marbury = $20,840,625

Collective barganing agreement requires that trades involving teams over the cap must be within 125% + $100K from each other

($20,840,625 -$100K)/125% = $16,592,500

$16,592,500 - $7,000,000 = $9,592,500 left for Dallas to add to make the trades work.

My point is that Terry is the only player under contract in 2010 that I would not want past 2010, so adding him in a trade for a player that would fill Terry's role (making Terry unneeded) is a good thing for Dallas even if it is a slight downgrade (which it may not be).

$7,000,000 (Stack)+ $9,196,000 (Terry) + $1,600,000 (George) = $17,796,000 which matched and works under the CBA.

Now after this trade, our summer 2010 looks like this:
$21,513,524......Dirk
$11,835,000......Howard (team option)
$6,478,600.......Diop

That is $28 mil committed salary + $11.8 mil team option likely to be picked up....making 39.8 mil.

The MAX contract for Lebron in Summer 2010 is going to be in the 17-18 mil range with a salary cap near 60 mil. If we resign Bass and Green (or some other player to a MLE type deal) next summer, we still have the option of renouncing Howard or trading Howard for a pick to free up more room. Not to mention contracts can be re-negotiated and I'll bet my house Dirk would lower his $21.5 mil early termination option contract to 18 mil if the 3.5 mil is the difference of playing with Lebron or going to a championship caliber team for MLE or a max deal offer from a team with many holes. Knowing that we even are in Lebron's eyes of a possible team, we owe it to ourselves to do this type of trade because 1) Marbury may be better this year given the oppertunity and 2) allows us to be major players in 2010 and 3) drops Dallas bout about 15 mil under the tax next year before concidering Bass and/or Kidd...thus Cuban would be willing to use the MLE next year.

Re: marbury

Posted: Sun Nov 2, 2008 7:03 am
by crucifixx
Bravo Jes. Now go and call Mark Cuban. And I am being serious

Re: marbury

Posted: Sun Nov 2, 2008 7:43 am
by JES12
Ligatsa wrote:Bravo Jes. Now go and call Mark Cuban. And I am being serious

I don't have his phone # and he doesn't respond to most of his e-mails. But I know where he lives. If I tell you how to get there, will you jump his fence and knock on his door? I'm still in Portland.

Re: marbury

Posted: Sun Nov 2, 2008 8:17 am
by crucifixx
JES12 wrote:
Ligatsa wrote:Bravo Jes. Now go and call Mark Cuban. And I am being serious

I don't have his phone # and he doesn't respond to most of his e-mails. But I know where he lives. If I tell you how to get there, will you jump his fence and knock on his door? I'm still in Portland.

Sounds very adventurous but i am not in Dallas either. Does anyone in Dallas willing to trespass for the sake of the future of our team?

Re: marbury

Posted: Sun Nov 2, 2008 8:55 am
by JES12
LOL, the way you put it, no one will do it. The bigger problem is that his mansion is a city block long and covered with video cameras. The front fence is a ~8 feet high metal rod fense and his back fence is a 8-10 foot wooden fence. He has several buildings on the same property. I’m not sure which one he primarily stays in, but I know the one in the back is his guest house that Dennis Rodman stayed in for a little while.

Re: marbury

Posted: Sun Nov 2, 2008 9:30 am
by crucifixx
That sounds hard to do. It'll be easier to pack up Stack and fedex his ass to new york.

Re: marbury

Posted: Sun Nov 2, 2008 9:32 am
by JES12
:lol: That's sounds like a better plan.

Re: marbury

Posted: Sun Nov 2, 2008 5:12 pm
by itsgotime
You've got to be kidding me right? Just last week the talk was about getting the better player out of NY in Crawford and that was nixed. Now we want to bring in $20 mil in salary for a player who hasn't played well in a century?

How about we get actual help instead of continuing to get maybe's? I'm all for one or two of these young kids to resurrect their short career. Starbury has his money and has already been at the top, not much more incentive left for him.

Re: marbury

Posted: Sun Nov 2, 2008 7:34 pm
by JES12
Crawford is a better lockeroom presesnce though he is no angel, but Marbury on the court is better than Crawford. And Crawford has a 3 year deal.

Definatly don't want to trade Stack's short contract for that chucker's 3 year deal.

Re: marbury

Posted: Sun Nov 2, 2008 9:15 pm
by crucifixx
Sources from Dime said that Marbury could be waived tonight. Hmmmmmm vet minimum signing with the Mavs? Id love it.

Re: marbury

Posted: Sun Nov 2, 2008 9:29 pm
by JES12
If and only if he signs for the vet min would I be interested. That allows us to trade Terry for a useless expiring contract like Malik Rose and still sets us up for the same scenario as the trade I posted earlier.

Re: marbury

Posted: Sun Nov 2, 2008 9:36 pm
by cmavswin
The only way I woud want to see Marbury here is if Terry+ Stack and/or Damp were on their way out and the Mavs were blowing it up.

Re: marbury

Posted: Sun Nov 2, 2008 9:38 pm
by JES12