perfect 2010 offseason plan

thaAteam · Post #1 » by **thaAteam** » Sat Dec 6, 2008 6:06 am

everyone will be going after the big name free agents and the well will run dry, crappy teams clearing cap is a bag idea, history says they dont go there so the mavs should sneak in the back door
1st give dirk extension 3 years 45 million, josh extention 4 years 40 million, sign tj ford 5 years 50 mill, sign jermaine oneal 3 years 25 mill keep jason terry, diop, posibly bass if he can be kept for around 3 years 12 mill and round out the rest with back up and this years draft
pg- ford, terry, barea
sg- shan foster, sign somene
sf- josh howard
pf dirk, bass
center- jo diop

boshjonesford · Post #2 » by **boshjonesford** » Sat Dec 6, 2008 9:10 am

i thought you guys would go after bosh because he is from Dallas Texas

JES12 · Post #3 » by **JES12** » Sat Dec 6, 2008 1:51 pm

If Dallas' eyes are on Bosh, then we should trade Dirk for players at other positions while Dirk still has value. That said, I don't think Dallas is looking to trade Dirk and Bosh is not on their radar. But who knows, maybe I'm wrong.

And to thaAteam...I'm not sure how you get your numbers, but I am assuming Dirk's and Howard's extensions are after their final year and not negotiating their current final year. If that is the case and we renounce Williams and Dampier, then we will be sitting at $55.52 mil amd enough room to sign a MLE player.

$21,513,524 Dirk
$11,835,000 Howard
$9,873,000 Terry
$6,478,600 Diop
$4,000,000 Bass (estimated based off your 3 yer 12 mil as the 4 mil would be year 2)
$1,815,000 Barea

And I'm not so sure yet that we should renounce Williams and resign Dampier to a vet min contract while trading Diop for an expiring or a 2 year deal. For about 2 mil less we can have Williams-Damp instead of Diop.

thaAteam · Post #4 » by **thaAteam** » Sat Dec 6, 2008 4:59 pm

the cap is about 65 million so dirk would opt and sign 3 year extension, and josh ption would not be picked up and he would be resigned so that would give roughly 17 or 18 mill in cap space

Blowitupalready · Post #5 » by **Blowitupalready** » Sat Dec 6, 2008 5:04 pm

Here is my 2010 plan.

Step 1. Trade JET for an expiring 09' or 10' contract and a 1 st round pick while his value is currently as high as it's ever gonna get for a guy owed 30m more over the next 3 seasons.

Step 2. Sign Marbury to a 2 year cheap deal ending in 10' after his buyout from NY.

Step 3. Let Kidd walk this summer and let Marbury JJB be the PG's next season.

Step 4. Decline J-Ho team option and wait for Dirk to opt out of his contract

Step 5. Sign 2 of the following players: Yao Ming, Chris Bosh, Dwayne Wade, Lebron James to max deals. Any combination of those players surrounded by shooters, defenders, and rebounders could be a chmpionship team.

I like Dirk, always have, always will. That being said, it is unfortuate that he is locked into a PF position because he can't dominate the game from the low block. In other words, he can't win a team a title, but the other 4 guys I mentioned can. One of them already did.

2011Champs · Post #6 » by **2011Champs** » Sat Dec 6, 2008 5:20 pm

I would be afraid to sign Yao to a max contract due to his injurys. He will be 30 in 2010. Is Yao really going to be worth max money towards the end of his contract? Maybe a max money deal for 4 years but not for the full 7. I like the idea of Bosh and James the best if they want to come here ,but it seems like a long shot.

dirkforpres · Post #7 » by **dirkforpres** » Sat Dec 6, 2008 5:24 pm

Perfect 2010- LeBron James.

JES12 · Post #8 » by **JES12** » Sun Dec 7, 2008 12:44 am

dirkforpres wrote:Perfect 2010- LeBron James.

Post #9 » by **cmavswin** » Sun Dec 7, 2008 5:09 am

If you want Lebron your going to have to keep Kidd. He said he wants to play on the same team as Kidd. Would be interesting to see if the Mavs could pull that off thou. However I have a feeling that LeBron stays in Cleveland since they can offer him the most money.

italy_23 · Post #10 » by **italy_23** » Sun Dec 7, 2008 1:38 pm

sometimes you make me laugh...
sure, lebron is coming to dallas. waited his whole damn life just to come to dallas. looool.

italy_23 · Post #11 » by **italy_23** » Sun Dec 7, 2008 1:40 pm

Blowitupalready wrote:Step 5. Sign 2 of the following players: Yao Ming, Chris Bosh, Dwayne Wade, Lebron James to max deals. Any combination of those players surrounded by shooters, defenders, and rebounders could be a chmpionship team.
.

sure
no prob, you should call donnie.
why not make these four guys fight it out for 2 of our roster spots...

Realmavsman · Post #12 » by **Realmavsman** » Sun Dec 7, 2008 4:10 pm

The truth is that almost all those players are going to sign with their current teams. Dallas has had no luck in attracting free agents. Dallas is only used as a tool by the players agent to get what he wants from the other team. How many times do we have to go throught this before we accept the fact that nobody huge is coming here? I laugh when I read how we should sign Lebron. Lebron is not coming here. D-Wade is not coming here. Bosh is very likely not coming here. And I don't want Yao Ming. What has he done for Houston to warrant a max deal here?

I still believe our best option is to trade key players (Dirk, Howard, Terry) for draft picks and build that way.

2011Champs · Post #13 » by **2011Champs** » Sun Dec 7, 2008 4:55 pm

Realmavsman is 100% right. No big name free agent is going to come here. Mavs have no reason to think that will change in 2010.

fazer86 · Post #14 » by **fazer86** » Sun Dec 7, 2008 7:46 pm

ya i dont think the mavz have ever signed a free agent...
EVER
at least a big named free agent
the last one we got was for a sign and trade
DAMPIER...
so at the end of the day i dont know any body else who has dreamt of playin in dallas
and when Bosh lived here, he thought the mavz sucked, and didnt like Dirk
so what does that tell you? Although i want him to come here badly i do not see him coming down here no matter what

Blowitupalready · Post #15 » by **Blowitupalready** » Mon Dec 8, 2008 1:55 am

I thought the point of this thread was to discuss a plan for the 2010 offseason. I never suggested that the Mavs would be successful in signing Ming, Bosh, James, or Wade. I merely layed out a plan that would keep the Mavs someone competitive next year and erase nearly all of their salary for the big opt out day in July 2010.

Is it possible that 2 of those players would take a little less money to play together and build a championshipteam? Absolutely.

Is it likely? Probably not. But hey, if they're not interested then you can resign Dirk and find som lesser free agents to retool.

You need to clear salary to be in the sweepstakes, and that is where the Mavs should be positioning themselves.

Also, Kidd will be less than useless by the time James is on the market. Not to mention, he will already be heading into year 2 of a 3-4 year deal with some team anyway.

ARodr21 · Post #16 » by **ARodr21** » Mon Dec 8, 2008 8:13 am

Any chance you can just trade Dirk to Toronto straight up for Bosh?

Dallas gets younger and a hometown guy who would resign as the franchise front man with an owner who knows will take care of him and build around him.

Raps do it because they get the uneasy felling Bosh has his eyes on New York, Miami, Chicago, or Dallas and they might find it easier to resign Dirk in 2010 especially if they can get Nash to go up there to close out his career.

JES12 · Post #17 » by **JES12** » Mon Dec 8, 2008 8:18 am

Dirk has an ETO 2010 as well. Trading for that purpose cures nothing. But Dallas should do that if it were offered (in the offseason).

ARodr21 · Post #18 » by **ARodr21** » Mon Dec 8, 2008 8:25 am

I know Dirk does but say teams under 2010 with chances of making headway are Chi. NY, NJ(Brooklyn), and Miami.

I think Dirk is not in the top 5 on the list for those teams while Bosh is. Toronto's thinking is Dirk as a foreigner is more likely to re-sign with them than Bosh. This is if behind closed doors Bosh makes it loud and clear he wants out to go home in Texas, or the big lights of NY with Lebron, or beaches of Miami, or big market and Championship run in Chicago.

JES12 · Post #19 » by **JES12** » Mon Dec 8, 2008 8:29 am

I'm not going to agrue if they offer it. Add in the fact that Lebron said he would like to play for Cuban and we will so be a FA magnet.

from_ro_to_dirk · Post #20 » by **from_ro_to_dirk** » Mon Dec 8, 2008 11:26 am

if we have any chance of getting Lebron it would with Kidd here. So if Kidd continues his solid play, lasts the whole season and the Mavs have a successful year, then i think you sign him to a one year deal with a team option for the 2010 season. that way Kidd can convince Lebron to come play alongside him and Dirk (who we know will still be a baddass). If we only sign Kidd to a one year deal next year and there is no option, then he'll just go sign for the minimum in New York. also, if he convinces Lebron to come, we dont have to pick up that option right? Kidd becomes a FA and we sign him cheap and use the money to get someone else. Im sure Kidd would do it too.

I remember during the offseason someone asked Lebron to list his favorite 'cities' and he put Dallas as 3rd. we all know what the real question was. sadly though, im sure the NBA finds a way to get him to NY.