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Re: Toronto Blue Jays(50-59) at New York Yankees(65-45) 

Post#21 » by Lateral Quicks » Tue Aug 6, 2024 5:08 pm

Mehar wrote:Who forgets the great 5 Tool Talent that Atkins loved in Derek Fisher, who is out of the league.


I will never forget. How could I forget this gem:

Atkins on Sanchez trade: Fisher's upside was too much to turn away from


That was five years ago, and this clown is still in charge.
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Post#22 » by linery88 » Tue Aug 6, 2024 5:50 pm

Mehar wrote:
Hottie McShotty wrote:This entire coaching staff and front office need to be replaced. The fans have had enough. I'm not sticking around for another rebuild with the same staff and FO, especially after 10 years of no playoff success.

As an example of this joke front office- it took the Dodgers 28 Games to figure out that Cavan Biggio was trash, and they had him DFA yesterday. This same front office thought he could be a solid player for 4 years too long, and paid him over 4 million this year.

The same organization that had Tapia getting a ridiculous 411 AT Bats in 2022 (including his laughable outfield defense in the 2022 Wild Card Debacle), and he is out of the league. Who forgets the great 5 Tool Talent that Atkins loved in Derek Fisher, who is out of the league.

This front office had 9 years, and their behinds would be canned in any other American city. 9 years with 0 playoff wins. There should not be a 10. Get rid of the Three Stooges- Atkins, Shapiro, and Schneider. Their time needs to be over. Hand the keys to James Click, and let him do a rebuild. I am willing to be patient for 2-3 years. It would be a lot better to see a true rebuild, than watching this garbage offense most of the year and last year.


Biggio`s AB,s were some of the worst.(nothing against the guy),but you could see the result that was coming from those AB,s most of the time.He loved looking at great fastballs a lot.Maybe if we had a decent HC he might have done better.
With Vlads recent upsurge,its like the media is trying to give Guillermo some credit for it to justify his existence...Fake org...
Looks like Guillermo is probably gonna stay put(please no),as Shatkins will probably include Guillermo in Vlads finding himself again.
Disgusting if this happens.
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Post#23 » by Parataxis » Tue Aug 6, 2024 5:58 pm

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Parataxis wrote:One would think that Schneider would eventually learn to not pull pitchers when they're doing well.

One would be wrong.

That wasn't his call. The nerds have a number of pitches Rodriguez can throw and theres an inning limit for him.


I bet if the media were to ask Atkins about that, he'd insist that Schneider had the final call on it.
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Post#24 » by johanliebert » Tue Aug 6, 2024 7:00 pm

Parataxis wrote:
johanliebert wrote:
Parataxis wrote:One would think that Schneider would eventually learn to not pull pitchers when they're doing well.

One would be wrong.

That wasn't his call. The nerds have a number of pitches Rodriguez can throw and theres an inning limit for him.


I bet if the media were to ask Atkins about that, he'd insist that Schneider had the final call on it.

Like last off-season haha.
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Post#25 » by linery88 » Tue Aug 6, 2024 7:03 pm

I get why they would wanna save Rodriguez,but they have done this garbage in the playoffs as well.
This is what has turned the fans into either honest,rightfully critical fans,or koolaid drinkers who have to believe.
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Post#26 » by PowerPlant1 » Tue Aug 6, 2024 7:19 pm

Lateral Quicks wrote:
Mehar wrote:Who forgets the great 5 Tool Talent that Atkins loved in Derek Fisher, who is out of the league.


I will never forget. How could I forget this gem:

Atkins on Sanchez trade: Fisher's upside was too much to turn away from


That was five years ago, and this clown is still in charge.


Definitely a precursor to the Varsho trade.

Tools, tools, tools, athleticism, athleticism. Seems like almost every player this guy brings in has to have the stuff that he loves and is excited about. Whether that upside turns into anything doesn't matter so long as he is in love with it. It's done wonders for this team.

But yeah, he makes one good potential steal of a trade during the deadline amidst everything else he has done wrong and you have people clamoring for an extension.
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Post#27 » by linery88 » Tue Aug 6, 2024 7:50 pm

PowerPlant1 wrote:
Lateral Quicks wrote:
Mehar wrote:Who forgets the great 5 Tool Talent that Atkins loved in Derek Fisher, who is out of the league.


I will never forget. How could I forget this gem:

Atkins on Sanchez trade: Fisher's upside was too much to turn away from


That was five years ago, and this clown is still in charge.


Definitely a precursor to the Varsho trade.

Tools, tools, tools, athleticism, athleticism. Seems like almost every player this guy brings in has to have the stuff that he loves and is excited about. Whether that upside turns into anything doesn't matter so long as he is in love with it. It's done wonders for this team.

But yeah, he makes one good potential steal of a trade during the deadline amidst everything else he has done wrong and you have people clamoring for an extension.


He is the best snake oil salesman in the game.Cant stand this fab 4 anymore.(Shatkins-Schneider-Guillermo)
Will our franchise survive these guys?
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Post#28 » by Asianiac_24 » Tue Aug 6, 2024 10:22 pm

Mehar wrote:
Hottie McShotty wrote:This entire coaching staff and front office need to be replaced. The fans have had enough. I'm not sticking around for another rebuild with the same staff and FO, especially after 10 years of no playoff success.

As an example of this joke front office- it took the Dodgers 28 Games to figure out that Cavan Biggio was trash, and they had him DFA yesterday. This same front office thought he could be a solid player for 4 years too long, and paid him over 4 million this year.

The same organization that had Tapia getting a ridiculous 411 AT Bats in 2022 (including his laughable outfield defense in the 2022 Wild Card Debacle), and he is out of the league. Who forgets the great 5 Tool Talent that Atkins loved in Derek Fisher, who is out of the league.

This front office had 9 years, and their behinds would be canned in any other American city. 9 years with 0 playoff wins. There should not be a 10. Get rid of the Three Stooges- Atkins, Shapiro, and Schneider. Their time needs to be over. Hand the keys to James Click, and let him do a rebuild. I am willing to be patient for 2-3 years. It would be a lot better to see a true rebuild, than watching this garbage offense most of the year and last year.


Tapia playing as lead off is proof that the manager still does the calls. There is no way any stat nerd is putting Tapia lead off when we had Marcus Semien, Vlad, Bichette, Teoscar, hell even Gurriel Jr.
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Post#29 » by JN » Wed Aug 7, 2024 12:45 am

It is amazing that our crowds dwarf what the Yankees got on a weekend series.
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Post#30 » by JN » Wed Aug 7, 2024 12:48 am

linery88 wrote:I get why they would wanna save Rodriguez,but they have done this garbage in the playoffs as well.
This is what has turned the fans into either honest,rightfully critical fans,or koolaid drinkers who have to believe.


I think this is recent situation is a bit overblown (the Rodriguez part)... its not the same as the Twins playoff game which was utter blasphemy in terms of starter management.

I have no issue with having an absolute strict pitching count on a guy who hasn't started for a number of years, when we really aren't playing for anything this year. Sure could have tried to give him one more batter to get to 5 innings, but its really not a situation that demands flexibility either at this point... like a playoff game where flexibility and common sense judgment should have been used
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Post#31 » by linery88 » Wed Aug 7, 2024 2:56 am

JN wrote:
linery88 wrote:I get why they would wanna save Rodriguez,but they have done this garbage in the playoffs as well.
This is what has turned the fans into either honest,rightfully critical fans,or koolaid drinkers who have to believe.


I think this is recent situation is a bit overblown (the Rodriguez part)... its not the same as the Twins playoff game which was utter blasphemy in terms of starter management.

I have no issue with having an absolute strict pitching count on a guy who hasn't started for a number of years, when we really aren't playing for anything this year. Sure could have tried to give him one more batter to get to 5 innings, but its really not a situation that demands flexibility either at this point... like a playoff game where flexibility and common sense judgment should have been used


imo-To a lot of fans,anytime anything like this happens regardless of the circumstances,it looks bad,and I wasn,t that bothered by it because i figure they are saving him to be a 5 starter,and i no longer care that much if they win every game,since we are out anyways.If the broadcasters weren,t upset by removing him,i probably wouldn,t have bothered mentioning it.Just another bad predictable result as the FO leads our players.
To them i think it looked like ..sounded like "Oh no,not again,reg or playoffs"
I have a hard time blaming the players,and have mostly blamed the FO for any bad results we get,and will be from here on in,until they GTFO.
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Post#32 » by dagger » Wed Aug 7, 2024 12:11 pm

JN wrote:It is amazing that our crowds dwarf what the Yankees got on a weekend series.


A lot of tickets bought months ago, I assume. Although this version of the team more fun to watch than the miserable lot that ploughed through the first three-plus months. Except for missing Garcia in the bullpen, I'm not sure it is less talented either, even with Bo on the shelf. The Buffalo bunch is more interesting to watch to see how they can develop, as opposed to watching a bunch of geysers whose best days are behind them. The Jays are a threat to win any game, even if they end up losing a series. Ironically, the managing seems tighter. I don't have much grief with Schneider, and he's probably a good guy to work with younger players, but he goes if there is a front office house-cleaning so the new GM can have his guy in place.
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