Jays v Cherokees / sept6-8

[ItsDanger]

Daulton Varsho strikes out swinging.

How many times have we heard that this season?

A very weird attempt at a bad take.

Varsho has a 26.3% K-rate and is 41st in the league in total strikeouts. He has fewer strikeouts than Red Sox superstar Jarren Duran and a host of other players. Less strikeouts than Jazz Chisolm.

So to answer your question: you have "heard that" a fairly average amount of times this season.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&type=8&season=2024&month=0&season1=2024&ind=0&rost=&age=&filter=&players=0&sortcol=9&sortdir=default&team=0&qual=y&pagenum=1&pageitems=30

Varsho's 26.3 K% is 26th worst in MLB among qualified players, Duran is 21.7 K% for 61st.

Average? Gimme a break.

[Fairview4Life]

There’s only 134 qualified hitters in that list.

[ItsDanger]

"Team MVP" Varsho is benched vs Sale for a good reason.

[ItsDanger]

There’s only 134 qualified hitters in that list.

So what? Poster is referencing average for a percentage statistic. League wide K% is 22.5%, a significant difference from Varsho's line.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&type=8&season=2024&month=0&season1=2024&ind=0&rost=&age=&filter=&players=0&sortcol=9&sortdir=default&qual=y&pageitems=30&team=0%2Css

Not even worth my time typing this obvious crap out. Smh

[greekman]

not cashing in runners is the problem. how do you score when springer is 3/5 and clement is 0/6 ? how do you score when horwitz is 2-2 and the guy after him is 0/2.

[ItsDanger]

not cashing in runners is the problem. how do you score when springer is 3/5 and clement is 0/6 ? how do you score when horwitz is 2-2 and the guy after him is 0/2.

About 30% of their games, they only score 2 runs or less. I didn't factor in extra innings though, so its worse. If you bump it to 3 runs while considering the poor bullpen, it's not hard to see the problem here. People can obsess over their favourite advanced stats or finally acknowledge the realities here. I'm not optimistic about that.

[dagger]

not cashing in runners is the problem. how do you score when springer is 3/5 and clement is 0/6 ? how do you score when horwitz is 2-2 and the guy after him is 0/2.

About 30% of their games, they only score 2 runs or less. I didn't factor in extra innings though, so its worse. If you bump it to 3 runs while considering the poor bullpen, it's not hard to see the problem here. People can obsess over their favourite advanced stats or finally acknowledge the realities here. I'm not optimistic about that.

Exactly I hope Alan Roden's stats transfer to MLB like they have at every level from Vancouver on up. He's maybe the best BA/RISP guy in the organization. Just gets it done with RISP.

[Fairview4Life]

There’s only 134 qualified hitters in that list.

So what? Poster is referencing average for a percentage statistic. League wide K% is 22.5%, a significant difference from Varsho's line.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&type=8&season=2024&month=0&season1=2024&ind=0&rost=&age=&filter=&players=0&sortcol=9&sortdir=default&qual=y&pageitems=30&team=0%2Css

Not even worth my time typing this obvious crap out. Smh

He referenced total amount since you asked how often it was heard this year. Basically you whined about Varsho because you can’t handle Randle’s comments about him, but you don’t really know anything about baseball.

[ItsDanger]

There’s only 134 qualified hitters in that list.

So what? Poster is referencing average for a percentage statistic. League wide K% is 22.5%, a significant difference from Varsho's line.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&type=8&season=2024&month=0&season1=2024&ind=0&rost=&age=&filter=&players=0&sortcol=9&sortdir=default&qual=y&pageitems=30&team=0%2Css

Not even worth my time typing this obvious crap out. Smh

He referenced total amount since you asked how often it was heard this year. Basically you whined about Varsho because you can’t handle Randle’s comments about him, but you don’t really know anything about baseball.

Ahh, the fascination with misleading statistics makes sense all of a sudden. Not reversible unfortunately

[Fairview4Life]

A little run prevention would have helped today. Barger with an unfortunate error.

[Hottie McShotty]

Only 1 hit so far. Is anyone not surprised at the outcome so far? Look at the genius manager's lineup for today's game.

George Springer
Ernie Clement
Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
Alejandro Kirk
Leo Jiménez
Davis Schneider
Luis De Los Santos
Brian Serven
Joey Loperfido

Gee, its almost like they were loading the lineup with right handed hitters against an elite LHP.

Do you ever make a good point about anything?

LHB against Chris Sale this season: .198/.230/.313

I do. Do you? If you don't like what you see, you're welcome to go somewhere else.

The manager, along with the front office, bears responsibility for the team's current state. You can't come here telling everyone that even with that right-handed lineup, we had a chance against an elite pitcher like Sale. That lineup will struggle to get you any runs, as it does against any starting pitcher (left-handed or right-handed). Our pitching needs to be near perfect to have a chance. It's a failed approach, and Shatkins should be blamed for all of it.

It's hard to accept that the current team, the way it's constructed, will lead us to victory. The goal is to make the playoffs and have success, but this team has failed to do this under this FO for 9 straight years. I know it's hard for you to comprehend this approach, and you would much rather watch mediocre baseball and are fine with it, as is your weird lovefest for Mr. Varsho, the MVP.

[JTT]

"Team MVP" Varsho is benched vs Sale for a good reason.

lol… left handed hitters of all types get rest days when Sale is going. If you think that’s a benching, then he’s in good company.

[ItsDanger]

"Team MVP" Varsho is benched vs Sale for a good reason.

lol… left handed hitters of all types get rest days when Sale is going. If you think that’s a benching, then he’s in good company.

All types? Yes. The best LH batters? Especially ones touted as team MVPs? No. Lets keep in mind his mediocre stats were given a break today.

[JTT]

"Team MVP" Varsho is benched vs Sale for a good reason.

lol… left handed hitters of all types get rest days when Sale is going. If you think that’s a benching, then he’s in good company.

All types? Yes. The best LH batters? Especially ones touted as team MVPs? No. Lets keep in mind his mediocre stats were given a break today.

Not sure who’s touting him as team mvp… a bit of hyperbole on your part me thinks. But yes… his average bat and superior defence got a rest today.

Tell me, was Spencer Horowitz benched today? You know, I’m not sure you noticed but most of the lefties didn’t start. Loperfido took Varsho’s spot, so they could take a look at him. Could it be that they’re not emphasizing winning right now?

[ItsDanger]

lol… left handed hitters of all types get rest days when Sale is going. If you think that’s a benching, then he’s in good company.

All types? Yes. The best LH batters? Especially ones touted as team MVPs? No. Lets keep in mind his mediocre stats were given a break today.

Not sure who’s touting him as team mvp… a bit of hyperbole on your part me thinks. But yes… his average bat and superior defence got a rest today.

Tell me, was Spencer Horowitz benched today? You know, I’m not sure you noticed but most of the lefties didn’t start. Loperfido took Varsho’s spot, so they could take a look at him. Could it be that they’re not emphasizing winning right now?

No hyperbole on my part, I wasn't the one promoting him as a team MVP. However, it is an interesting choice of words more applicable to those who do.

[Fairview4Life]

Only 1 hit so far. Is anyone not surprised at the outcome so far? Look at the genius manager's lineup for today's game.

George Springer
Ernie Clement
Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
Alejandro Kirk
Leo Jiménez
Davis Schneider
Luis De Los Santos
Brian Serven
Joey Loperfido

Gee, its almost like they were loading the lineup with right handed hitters against an elite LHP.

Do you ever make a good point about anything?

LHB against Chris Sale this season: .198/.230/.313

I do. Do you? If you don't like what you see, you're welcome to go somewhere else.

The manager, along with the front office, bears responsibility for the team's current state. You can't come here telling everyone that even with that right-handed lineup, we had a chance against an elite pitcher like Sale. That lineup will struggle to get you any runs, as it does against any starting pitcher (left-handed or right-handed). Our pitching needs to be near perfect to have a chance. It's a failed approach, and Shatkins should be blamed for all of it.

It's hard to accept that the current team, the way it's constructed, will lead us to victory. The goal is to make the playoffs and have success, but this team has failed to do this under this FO for 9 straight years. I know it's hard for you to comprehend this approach, and you would much rather watch mediocre baseball and are fine with it, as is your weird lovefest for Mr. Varsho, the MVP. :lol:

They very much did have a chance against him. He threw 113 pitches through 6 and the Jays took the lead in the 8th. They were winning the game in the bottom half of the 9th and 11th and it took a **** throw to lose.

[linery88]

OMG..Jays putting out a lineup like they wanted to win this game,and they should have.
MLB had the mets/cinn game,and met broadcasters kept mentioning us,and were paying us compliments.When we took the lead they were calm about it,but excited,until both teams lost,first us then them.Mets@Jays tonite.

[johanliebert]

Daulton Varsho strikes out swinging.

How many times have we heard that this season?

A very weird attempt at a bad take.

Varsho has a 26.3% K-rate and is 41st in the league in total strikeouts. He has fewer strikeouts than Red Sox superstar Jarren Duran and a host of other players. Less strikeouts than Jazz Chisolm.

So to answer your question: you have "heard that" a fairly average amount of times this season.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&type=8&season=2024&month=0&season1=2024&ind=0&rost=&age=&filter=&players=0&sortcol=9&sortdir=default&team=0&qual=y&pagenum=1&pageitems=30

Varsho's 26.3 K% is 26th worst in MLB among qualified players, Duran is 21.7 K% for 61st.

Average? Gimme a break.

stuff like this put me off on the mlb. nerds who will find any stat to convince us are eyes are lying.

[Hottie McShotty]

Add 3 mores SOs for our MVP Daulton Varsho! lol.

[Fairview4Life]

Only 2 for our real MVP Vladdy. And Horowitz. And Barger. And the Wagner/Schneider combo. It was not a frustrating game to watch at all.