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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#101 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:50 am

dh_45 wrote:It's the curse of the big contract. Vlad knows he's not worth that money and is feeling the heat

He’s literally been exactly this player the entire time.
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#102 » by Asianiac_24 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:47 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:“Power is low-hanging fruit to add”


Which is why Soto got 765M, but Luis Arraez got a 14M contract
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#103 » by PushDaRock » Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:17 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
dh_45 wrote:It's the curse of the big contract. Vlad knows he's not worth that money and is feeling the heat

He’s literally been exactly this player the entire time.


He's on pace for 7 homeruns the entire season, he literally has not been this player like ever.
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#104 » by Randle McMurphy » Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:31 am

PushDaRock wrote:
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dh_45 wrote:It's the curse of the big contract. Vlad knows he's not worth that money and is feeling the heat

He’s literally been exactly this player the entire time.


He's on pace for 7 homeruns the entire season, he literally has not been this player like ever.

You might want to check out his 2022 and 2023 seasons when he was hitting groundballs like this for the vast majority of those seasons. His current wRC+ (122) is actually better than what he was for the entire 2023 season (118wRC+).

Yes, he’s been this player and he is this player quite often.
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#105 » by PushDaRock » Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:00 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
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Randle McMurphy wrote:He’s literally been exactly this player the entire time.


He's on pace for 7 homeruns the entire season, he literally has not been this player like ever.

You might want to check out his 2022 and 2023 seasons when he was hitting groundballs like this for the vast majority of those seasons. His current wRC+ (122) is actually better than what he was for the entire 2023 season (118wRC+).

Yes, he’s been this player and he is this player quite often.


lol so you expect him to hit under 10 HR's this season?
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#106 » by Randle McMurphy » Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:06 am

PushDaRock wrote:
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PushDaRock wrote:
He's on pace for 7 homeruns the entire season, he literally has not been this player like ever.

You might want to check out his 2022 and 2023 seasons when he was hitting groundballs like this for the vast majority of those seasons. His current wRC+ (122) is actually better than what he was for the entire 2023 season (118wRC+).

Yes, he’s been this player and he is this player quite often.


lol so you expect him to hit under 10 HR's this season?

If he has a 122 wRC+ at year’s end it wouldn’t be surprising, no, considering he had a worse season than this literally two seasons ago.
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#107 » by PushDaRock » Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:12 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:You might want to check out his 2022 and 2023 seasons when he was hitting groundballs like this for the vast majority of those seasons. His current wRC+ (122) is actually better than what he was for the entire 2023 season (118wRC+).

Yes, he’s been this player and he is this player quite often.


lol so you expect him to hit under 10 HR's this season?

If he has a 122 wRC+ at year’s end it wouldn’t be surprising, no, considering he had a worse season than this literally two seasons ago.


That wasn't the question
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#108 » by Randle McMurphy » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:20 am

PushDaRock wrote:
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lol so you expect him to hit under 10 HR's this season?

If he has a 122 wRC+ at year’s end it wouldn’t be surprising, no, considering he had a worse season than this literally two seasons ago.


That wasn't the question

I’m less concerned by his HR totals than the fact that we paid 500M to a guy who isn’t an elite hitter in his career
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#109 » by PushDaRock » Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:37 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:If he has a 122 wRC+ at year’s end it wouldn’t be surprising, no, considering he had a worse season than this literally two seasons ago.


That wasn't the question

I’m less concerned by his HR totals than the fact that we paid 500M to a guy who isn’t an elite hitter in his career


lol you have an interesting way of not answering questions asked by going on tangents
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#110 » by Randle McMurphy » Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:23 am

PushDaRock wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
That wasn't the question

I’m less concerned by his HR totals than the fact that we paid 500M to a guy who isn’t an elite hitter in his career


lol you have an interesting way of not answering questions asked by going on tangents

Speaking of tangents, I’ve yet to figure out why his specific HR total matters when he literally was statistically a worse hitter than this in 2023

There is nothing surprising about him looking like this for an entire month, he’s not elite offensively and goes through regular long stretches where he doesn’t elevate the ball
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#111 » by PushDaRock » Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:42 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:I’m less concerned by his HR totals than the fact that we paid 500M to a guy who isn’t an elite hitter in his career


lol you have an interesting way of not answering questions asked by going on tangents

Speaking of tangents, I’ve yet to figure out why his specific HR total matters when he literally was statistically a worse hitter than this in 2023

There is nothing surprising about him looking like this for an entire month, he’s not elite offensively and goes through regular long stretches where he doesn’t elevate the ball


Ok, so you don't expect him to end up with 10 HR's then?
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#112 » by Randle McMurphy » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:14 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
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PushDaRock wrote:
lol you have an interesting way of not answering questions asked by going on tangents

Speaking of tangents, I’ve yet to figure out why his specific HR total matters when he literally was statistically a worse hitter than this in 2023

There is nothing surprising about him looking like this for an entire month, he’s not elite offensively and goes through regular long stretches where he doesn’t elevate the ball


Ok, so you don't expect him to end up with 10 HR's then?

Who cares how many HRs he has if he is the same level of hitter he was in 2023 again?

Your entire line of questioning is meant to distract from that fact. We’ve seen exactly this caliber of player for the majority of his career, which makes giving him 500M all the more reckless.
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#113 » by PushDaRock » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:35 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Speaking of tangents, I’ve yet to figure out why his specific HR total matters when he literally was statistically a worse hitter than this in 2023

There is nothing surprising about him looking like this for an entire month, he’s not elite offensively and goes through regular long stretches where he doesn’t elevate the ball


Ok, so you don't expect him to end up with 10 HR's then?

Who cares how many HRs he has if he is the same level of hitter he was in 2023 again?

Your entire line of questioning is meant to distract from that fact. We’ve seen exactly this caliber of player for the majority of his career, which makes giving him 500M all the more reckless.


Is a .200 batter with 50 HR's, wRC+ 120 and a .300 batter with 5 HR's, wRC+ 120 the same exact player?

lol what entire line of questioning? It's literally one simple question I keep asking which you refuse to answer.
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#114 » by Randle McMurphy » Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:46 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
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PushDaRock wrote:
Ok, so you don't expect him to end up with 10 HR's then?

Who cares how many HRs he has if he is the same level of hitter he was in 2023 again?

Your entire line of questioning is meant to distract from that fact. We’ve seen exactly this caliber of player for the majority of his career, which makes giving him 500M all the more reckless.


Is a .200 batter with 50 HR's, wRC+ 120 and a .300 batter with 5 HR's, wRC+ 120 the same exact player?

lol what entire line of questioning? It's literally one simple question I keep asking which you refuse to answer.

Exactly the same player? No. They are exactly the same quality level of hitter though.

And again, the question is a pointless one meant to distract from the actual point (that Vlad has been exactly this level of hitter before, so him repeating his 2019-2020 and 2022-2023 performance in 2025 thus far shouldn't be surprising to anyone).

It's completely irrelevant to that question whether Vlad hits 1 HR or 30 HRs. Hypothetically speaking, Vlad could be one of the best hitters of all time hitting 1 HR a season if, say, he hit .500 and got on base 60% of the time.
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#115 » by PushDaRock » Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:10 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Who cares how many HRs he has if he is the same level of hitter he was in 2023 again?

Your entire line of questioning is meant to distract from that fact. We’ve seen exactly this caliber of player for the majority of his career, which makes giving him 500M all the more reckless.


Is a .200 batter with 50 HR's, wRC+ 120 and a .300 batter with 5 HR's, wRC+ 120 the same exact player?

lol what entire line of questioning? It's literally one simple question I keep asking which you refuse to answer.

Exactly the same player? No. They are exactly the same quality level of hitter though.

And again, the question is a pointless one meant to distract from the actual point (that Vlad has been exactly this level of hitter before, so him repeating his 2019-2020 and 2022-2023 performance in 2025 thus far shouldn't be surprising to anyone).

It's completely irrelevant to that question whether Vlad hits 1 HR or 30 HRs. Hypothetically speaking, Vlad could be one of the best hitters of all time hitting 1 HR a season if, say, he hit .500 and got on base 60% of the time.


lol yes and Vlad hitting 1 HR and becoming that good of a hitter over a season would be a massive outlier just like his 7 HR pace is an outlier.

Your original comment was "He’s literally been exactly this player the entire time."

But, now you're acknowledging the 5 HR/wRC+ 120 and 50 HR/wRC+ 120 player are not exactly the same. So, that means Vlad on his 7 HR pace has not literally been exactly this player the entire time. Thanks for clarifying.
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#116 » by Randle McMurphy » Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:31 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
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PushDaRock wrote:
Is a .200 batter with 50 HR's, wRC+ 120 and a .300 batter with 5 HR's, wRC+ 120 the same exact player?

lol what entire line of questioning? It's literally one simple question I keep asking which you refuse to answer.

Exactly the same player? No. They are exactly the same quality level of hitter though.

And again, the question is a pointless one meant to distract from the actual point (that Vlad has been exactly this level of hitter before, so him repeating his 2019-2020 and 2022-2023 performance in 2025 thus far shouldn't be surprising to anyone).

It's completely irrelevant to that question whether Vlad hits 1 HR or 30 HRs. Hypothetically speaking, Vlad could be one of the best hitters of all time hitting 1 HR a season if, say, he hit .500 and got on base 60% of the time.


lol yes and Vlad hitting 1 HR and becoming that good of a hitter over a season would be a massive outlier just like his 7 HR pace is an outlier.

Your original comment was "He’s literally been exactly this player the entire time."

But, now you're acknowledging the 5 HR/wRC+ 120 and 50 HR/wRC+ 120 player are not exactly the same. So, that means Vlad on his 7 HR pace has not literally been exactly this player the entire time. Thanks for clarifying.


2019 Vlad: 106 wRC+
2020 Vlad: 110 wRC+
2021 Vlad: 166 wRC+
2022 Vlad: 132 wRC+
2023 Vlad: 118 wRC+
2024 Vlad: 165 wRC+
2025 Vlad: 122 wRC+

I trust even you can spot the outliers here but I'll bold them just to be sure.

Yes, he's been this player the entire time. Or, if we want to be really specific, he's been this player in 5 of his 7 major league seasons.
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#117 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:07 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Exactly the same player? No. They are exactly the same quality level of hitter though.

And again, the question is a pointless one meant to distract from the actual point (that Vlad has been exactly this level of hitter before, so him repeating his 2019-2020 and 2022-2023 performance in 2025 thus far shouldn't be surprising to anyone).

It's completely irrelevant to that question whether Vlad hits 1 HR or 30 HRs. Hypothetically speaking, Vlad could be one of the best hitters of all time hitting 1 HR a season if, say, he hit .500 and got on base 60% of the time.


lol yes and Vlad hitting 1 HR and becoming that good of a hitter over a season would be a massive outlier just like his 7 HR pace is an outlier.

Your original comment was "He’s literally been exactly this player the entire time."

But, now you're acknowledging the 5 HR/wRC+ 120 and 50 HR/wRC+ 120 player are not exactly the same. So, that means Vlad on his 7 HR pace has not literally been exactly this player the entire time. Thanks for clarifying.


2019 Vlad: 106 wRC+
2020 Vlad: 110 wRC+
2021 Vlad: 166 wRC+
2022 Vlad: 132 wRC+
2023 Vlad: 118 wRC+
2024 Vlad: 165 wRC+
2025 Vlad: 122 wRC+

I trust even you can spot the outliers here but I'll bold them just to be sure.

Yes, he's been this player the entire time. Or, if we want to be really specific, he's been this player in 5 of his 7 major league seasons.


He was 20 in 2019. Not really sure we can draw too many conclusions from his first couple years.
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#118 » by Randle McMurphy » Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:54 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
lol yes and Vlad hitting 1 HR and becoming that good of a hitter over a season would be a massive outlier just like his 7 HR pace is an outlier.

Your original comment was "He’s literally been exactly this player the entire time."

But, now you're acknowledging the 5 HR/wRC+ 120 and 50 HR/wRC+ 120 player are not exactly the same. So, that means Vlad on his 7 HR pace has not literally been exactly this player the entire time. Thanks for clarifying.


2019 Vlad: 106 wRC+
2020 Vlad: 110 wRC+
2021 Vlad: 166 wRC+
2022 Vlad: 132 wRC+
2023 Vlad: 118 wRC+
2024 Vlad: 165 wRC+
2025 Vlad: 122 wRC+

I trust even you can spot the outliers here but I'll bold them just to be sure.

Yes, he's been this player the entire time. Or, if we want to be really specific, he's been this player in 5 of his 7 major league seasons.


He was 20 in 2019. Not really sure we can draw too many conclusions from his first couple years.


Perhaps, but it all counts. He remains a player that hasn't pulled the ball in the air in almost 70% of his career and he's not pulling the ball enough in the air right now.
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Re: Blue Jays [12-10] vs. Astros [10-10] (April 21 - April 23) 

Post#119 » by PushDaRock » Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:19 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Exactly the same player? No. They are exactly the same quality level of hitter though.

And again, the question is a pointless one meant to distract from the actual point (that Vlad has been exactly this level of hitter before, so him repeating his 2019-2020 and 2022-2023 performance in 2025 thus far shouldn't be surprising to anyone).

It's completely irrelevant to that question whether Vlad hits 1 HR or 30 HRs. Hypothetically speaking, Vlad could be one of the best hitters of all time hitting 1 HR a season if, say, he hit .500 and got on base 60% of the time.


lol yes and Vlad hitting 1 HR and becoming that good of a hitter over a season would be a massive outlier just like his 7 HR pace is an outlier.

Your original comment was "He’s literally been exactly this player the entire time."

But, now you're acknowledging the 5 HR/wRC+ 120 and 50 HR/wRC+ 120 player are not exactly the same. So, that means Vlad on his 7 HR pace has not literally been exactly this player the entire time. Thanks for clarifying.


2019 Vlad: 106 wRC+
2020 Vlad: 110 wRC+
2021 Vlad: 166 wRC+
2022 Vlad: 132 wRC+
2023 Vlad: 118 wRC+
2024 Vlad: 165 wRC+
2025 Vlad: 122 wRC+

I trust even you can spot the outliers here but I'll bold them just to be sure.

Yes, he's been this player the entire time. Or, if we want to be really specific, he's been this player in 5 of his 7 major league seasons.


Career HR/PA: 0.044 (161 HR in 3650 PA)

2025 HR/PA: 0.009 (1 HR in 110 PA)

I trust even you can spot the outlier here, but I'll bold it for you just to be sure.

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