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Re: Don't give JP too much credit.... 

Post#21 » by SmallTownJournalist303 » Wed Apr 9, 2008 8:14 pm

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Honestly i dont know where all the JP hate comes from, over the years we havnt gotten past the yanks and sox but neither has anyone else. The fact is over the years he has steadly improved the lineup and looking at our first five pichers, doc, burnett, mcgowan, marcum and litsch, we got some of the best young and veteran pitchers in the game today. Now if he lost hill and rios i would of been pissed but he didnt so nothing but more props from me.

It appears to me that everything is rounding into form quite nicely with mostly all the players entering stages where they should be playing their best ball.


His problem is he's created a treadmill team through poor drafting and bad decisions. We've been good but not great in recent years; talented enough to compete through August but not talented enough to be close come September.
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Re: Don't give JP too much credit.... 

Post#22 » by whysoserious » Wed Apr 9, 2008 10:18 pm

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Honestly i dont know where all the JP hate comes from, over the years we havnt gotten past the yanks and sox but neither has anyone else. The fact is over the years he has steadly improved the lineup and looking at our first five pichers, doc, burnett, mcgowan, marcum and litsch, we got some of the best young and veteran pitchers in the game today. Now if he lost hill and rios i would of been pissed but he didnt so nothing but more props from me.

It appears to me that everything is rounding into form quite nicely with mostly all the players entering stages where they should be playing their best ball.


Of the five starters you mention, he inherited Halladay and McGown. I believe he did with Marcum as well but I could be wrong. He signed Burnett to a big contract and that hasn't worked out. Litsch is a nice prospect. Rios, Wells are predecessors of the previous regime.

The problem with JP is his drafting record and overpaying for players. He hasn't been able to find great value deals for the Jays and don't even start on our prospects. We have one player rated in the top 100. For a team that's missed the playoffs for six years since he's taken over, you woud think there would be a lot of good up and coming players in the organization and there just isn't.

There's been a lot of factors, injuries have hurt this team but truth is JP doesn't really look like he knows what kind of team he even wants. He's lucked into a few players developing last year like Marcum and McGown.

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