TSN2 Strikes Again!

drew1981 · Post #1 » by **drew1981** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:00 pm

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=276191

Damn you TSN2!!!!

Brinbe · Post #2 » by **Brinbe** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:12 pm

Boooooo, they can televise a team owned by Rogers but can't even agree to a deal with the damn company...

chunkybwoy_53 · Post #3 » by **chunkybwoy_53** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:17 pm

Well, the good news is that we're not missing many games, but the precedent this sets can't be good news for Toronto sports fans (at least those subscribing to Rogers cable).

Post #4 » by **Alfred** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:32 pm

Are you kidding me?

Post #5 » by **tsherkin** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:34 pm

Hooray, internet TV piracy...

oakleyselbows34 · Post #6 » by **oakleyselbows34** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:01 pm

I feel bad for all you guys in Ontario. I've been reading about this for forever now on the Raptors board and I have to say I'm pretty shocked that this hasn't been resolved yet. I would have thought most of the maniacs on the Raps board would have switched to Bell by now, especially since there appears to be no end in sight to this nonsense. In Manitoba where I live, I get TSN2 for free as part of my "sports" package from Shaw so I'm pretty lucky. I didn't miss any Raptor games this year and I won't have to miss any Jays games.

Post #7 » by **Alfred** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:02 pm

Yarr! Avast! Ye channel is about to be boarded by the merciless legion of Blue Bird

evilRyu · Post #8 » by **evilRyu** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:14 pm

so a Rogers owned product (The Blue Jays) won't be available to Rogers customers in Ontario?

chargerxthirty · Post #9 » by **chargerxthirty** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:20 pm

lol... this has to be the stupidest thing I've ever read.

Ryu makes the exact point I'm thinking. Rogers owns the ball club, they can't agree to a deal with TSN to purchase the rights of TSN2, yet they reach a deal for TSN2 to broadcast 5 games exclusively.

This company is proving just how dumb it is, on a consistent basis. This is one of the dumbest moves I've ever seen made by a telecommunications company.

Rogers is pathetic man.

J-Roc · Post #10 » by **J-Roc** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:49 pm

No one wants the Blue Jays. At least by giving it away to TSN2, Rogers makes a little money off it. Fans jump on and off bandwagons daily, but for broadcasters and advertisers and lux box holders, it takes a year. If the Jays do well this year, they can get back on real tv next year.

PoloGoose · Post #11 » by **PoloGoose** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:03 pm

Ted is spinning.

zilby · Post #12 » by **zilby** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:55 pm

5 games. WTF

victor page · Post #13 » by **victor page** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:42 pm

What really sucks is that numbnuts like me who buy the Rogers MLB pass and therefore are entitled to all MLB games do not get the opponent's team feed for these games.

They black out every game on TSN2.

Why does the CRTC prevent these games from airing on the sports package channels? How does this further the interests of Canadian broadcasting?

Why do we, as Canadian taxpayers, fund an organization like the CRTC when all they do is screw us around and force us to listen to Nickelback on the radio 27 hours of the day?

Post #14 » by **Alfred** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:01 pm

victor page wrote:What really sucks is that numbnuts like me who buy the Rogers MLB pass and therefore are entitled to all MLB games do not get the opponent's team feed for these games.

They black out every game on TSN2.

Why does the CRTC prevent these games from airing on the sports package channels? How does this further the interests of Canadian broadcasting?

Why do we, as Canadian taxpayers, fund an organization like the CRTC when all they do is screw us around and force us to listen to Nickelback on the radio 27 hours of the day?

Excellent point. The CRTC is a dinosaur.

Post #15 » by **LittleOzzy** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:02 pm

It's not the CRTC stopping the game from being on league pass, it's MLB.

Once a TV network buys a game to broadcast, they own that game and therefor it can not be shown on any other network.

zilby · Post #16 » by **zilby** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:27 pm

LittleOzzy wrote:Once a TV network buys a game to broadcast, they own that game and therefor it can not be shown on any other network.

this, my friend, is why people make internet streams

victor page · Post #17 » by **victor page** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:18 pm

Wheels that doesn't make sense. Every game is broadcast on two networks, the home team's network and the visiting team's network. The only exception is ESPN games that are shown nationally (or internationally on the worldwide leader).

MLB allows cable companies to sell league passes which allow buyers to receive a broadcast of every game played. When a game is on TSN2, Rogers blacks out the league pass broadcast thereby forcing you to get TSN2 to see that particular game.

They do the same thing in the NBA - I have the NBA league pass but that didn't help me get any Raptors games that were on TSN2. There were other broadcasts available, but they were blacked out.

It's the CRTC that allows this practice. It's the same reason that we don't get the real super bowl commercials. Global shows the super bowl, for example, so the Buffalo network feed is blacked out.

Post #18 » by **LittleOzzy** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:31 pm

victor page wrote:Wheels that doesn't make sense. Every game is broadcast on two networks, the home team's network and the visiting team's network. The only exception is ESPN games that are shown nationally (or internationally on the worldwide leader).

MLB allows cable companies to sell league passes which allow buyers to receive a broadcast of every game played. When a game is on TSN2, Rogers blacks out the league pass broadcast thereby forcing you to get TSN2 to see that particular game.

They do the same thing in the NBA - I have the NBA league pass but that didn't help me get any Raptors games that were on TSN2. There were other broadcasts available, but they were blacked out.

It's the CRTC that allows this practice. It's the same reason that we don't get the real super bowl commercials. Global shows the super bowl, for example, so the Buffalo network feed is blacked out.

I understand the game is shown on two networks, but when a network buys the game part of the agreement is that they will be the only station in a certain geographical region that can carry the game.

That's a NBA or MLB agreement and has nothing to do with the CRTC.

When the Lakers for example are on TNT nationally the game is blacked out in the L.A. area because a local network owns the rights to that game.

As for Superbowl commercials being blacked out that too has nothing to do with the CRTC but has everything to do with the network wanting to air their own commercials. Using the commercials from the States would be like putting the game on for free, they need to have a way to make money from it, if not, why carry it?

chunkybwoy_53 · Post #19 » by **chunkybwoy_53** » Fri May 1, 2009 3:57 am

victor page wrote:
It's the CRTC that allows this practice. It's the same reason that we don't get the real super bowl commercials. Global shows the super bowl, for example, so the Buffalo network feed is blacked out.

Well, it seems there may be a workaround for this now that HD/digital is available OTA. The Canadian broadcasters won't be able to interfere with the US signal and we are able to pick up ABC and Fox OTA here in Toronto (from Buffalo).