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Series Thread: Jays @ Tigers (June 27)

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Re: Series Thread: Jays @ Tigers (June 27) 

Post#41 » by Back2back2back » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:27 am

LittleOzzy wrote:I guess this counts as a lost series so anyone can make the next thread.

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I'll make the next one.
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Re: Series Thread: Jays @ Tigers (June 27) 

Post#42 » by Randle McMurphy » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:32 am

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spykelee wrote:tough to nitpick anything J-bow does, but that was a strange attempt at what seemed like a difficult, but makeable play...

He went for it all there and came up with nothing. If he doesn't, the run scores anyway.


Well if he doesn't come up with it, but keeps the ball in front of him, it's doubtful that run scores. Jackson wouldn't have been able to venture too far off 2nd base incase Bautista did come up with it... So long as it doesn't bounce that far away, that run wouldn't have scored. At least not then.

You're ignoring the possibility that Jackson got a great read on the ball and actually did venture off second base. Bautista could have seen that and knew that he had to catch it to prevent the run.
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Re: Series Thread: Jays @ Tigers (June 27) 

Post#43 » by spykelee » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:49 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:You're ignoring the possibility that Jackson got a great read on the ball and actually did venture off second base. Bautista could have seen that and knew that he had to catch it to prevent the run.


It's possible he got a great read sure, but it isn't likely and I'll tell ya why. Bautista almost came up with that ball, and by all accounts, that looked like a catchable ball, that had he not lost it in the lights, he would have come up with it. There's next to no chance, in a tie game, in the bottom of the 8th, that a runner is just going, assuming that a play that close, isn't going to get made... Well so long as it isn't Corey Patterson running anyways.
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Re: Series Thread: Jays @ Tigers (June 27) 

Post#44 » by Randle McMurphy » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:49 am

Or he just lost it in the lights while trying to catch it.

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Re: Series Thread: Jays @ Tigers (June 27) 

Post#45 » by Randle McMurphy » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:52 am

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Randle McMurphy wrote:You're ignoring the possibility that Jackson got a great read on the ball and actually did venture off second base. Bautista could have seen that and knew that he had to catch it to prevent the run.


It's possible he got a great read sure, but it isn't likely and I'll tell ya why. Bautista almost came up with that ball, and by all accounts, that looked like a catchable ball, that had he not lost it in the lights, he would have come up with it. There's next to no chance, in a tie game, in the bottom of the 8th, that a runner is just going, assuming that a play that close, isn't going to get made... Well so long as it isn't Corey Patterson running anyways.

If he lost a catchable ball in the lights, you can't really blame Bautista. Maybe you can blame his eyes.
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Re: Series Thread: Jays @ Tigers (June 27) 

Post#46 » by Randle McMurphy » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:58 am

Playing Nix during a three game winning streak against a RHP like Scherzer was asking for a loss, BTW. I thought his starting days were done.
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Re: Series Thread: Jays @ Tigers (June 27) 

Post#47 » by spykelee » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:59 am

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Randle McMurphy wrote:You're ignoring the possibility that Jackson got a great read on the ball and actually did venture off second base. Bautista could have seen that and knew that he had to catch it to prevent the run.


It's possible he got a great read sure, but it isn't likely and I'll tell ya why. Bautista almost came up with that ball, and by all accounts, that looked like a catchable ball, that had he not lost it in the lights, he would have come up with it. There's next to no chance, in a tie game, in the bottom of the 8th, that a runner is just going, assuming that a play that close, isn't going to get made... Well so long as it isn't Corey Patterson running anyways.

If he lost a catchable ball in the lights, you can't really blame Bautista. Maybe you can blame his eyes.


I'm not blaming him, nor was I ever. I said in my last post about how if he didn't lose it in the lights, he probably would have come up with it. And he said the exact same thing. My stance was more on that if that ball stays in front of him, there's a very good chance that run doesn't score right then and there. But it didn't, and it did.
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Re: Series Thread: Jays @ Tigers (June 27) 

Post#48 » by Randle McMurphy » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:01 am

spykelee wrote:I'm not blaming him, nor was I ever. I said in my last post about how if he didn't lose it in the lights, he probably would have come up with it. And he said the exact same thing. My stance was more on that if that ball stays in front of him, there's a very good chance that run doesn't score right then and there. But it didn't, and it did.

And if he didn't lose it in the lights, he probably would have kept it in front of him (or even more likely, he would have caught it, with the potential for a DP at 2nd).
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Re: Series Thread: Jays @ Tigers (June 27) 

Post#49 » by spykelee » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:04 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
spykelee wrote:I'm not blaming him, nor was I ever. I said in my last post about how if he didn't lose it in the lights, he probably would have come up with it. And he said the exact same thing. My stance was more on that if that ball stays in front of him, there's a very good chance that run doesn't score right then and there. But it didn't, and it did.

And if he didn't lose it in the lights, he probably would have kept it in front of him (or even more likely, he would have caught it, with the potential for a DP at 2nd).


yea probably

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