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Re: Globe article on Jays TV deal 

Post#21 » by Wo1verine » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:46 am

Does Parkes ever say anything negative about Rogers? Serious question.
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Post#22 » by ItsDanger » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:52 am

This is the root of the problem re: low payroll in this market. The owner keeps the savings from a lowball inter-company deal. This wont likely change much in the future. How can you believe them if ticket sales increase that the extra money would go into the the team budget? Answer: you cant. Only hope is for new leadership within Rogers.
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Post#23 » by Geddy » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:59 pm

Wo1verine wrote:Does Parkes ever say anything negative about Rogers? Serious question.



I think he's trying his best to get on Sportsnet so he can be closer to the team.
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Re: Globe article on Jays TV deal 

Post#24 » by Wo1verine » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:45 pm

Geddy wrote:
Wo1verine wrote:Does Parkes ever say anything negative about Rogers? Serious question.



I think he's trying his best to get on Sportsnet so he can be closer to the team.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.
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Post#25 » by BobbyBoy » Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:22 am

Rogers is the worst owner in baseball.
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Post#26 » by LittleOzzy » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:08 am

BobbyBoy wrote:Rogers is the worst owner in baseball.


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Re: Globe article on Jays TV deal 

Post#27 » by Tyrone Slothrop » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:20 am

Wo1verine wrote:
Geddy wrote:
Wo1verine wrote:Does Parkes ever say anything negative about Rogers? Serious question.



I think he's trying his best to get on Sportsnet so he can be closer to the team.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.


I don't know if we actually care about blogger/network relationships, but Getting Blanked has a good thing going with the Score, and Sportsnet already has strong affiliations with Tao of Stieb... I don't really think Parkes cares too much about Rogers, I feel as though being a blogger for the Score would be way better than for Sportsnet.
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Re: Globe article on Jays TV deal 

Post#28 » by Randle McMurphy » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:12 pm

Whenever you start getting into business-of-baseball topics, you know that Parkes is talking his out of ass (at least more than his usual level of BS).

And yeah, I've noticed that the content of his posts have changed significantly since he made blogging his full-time career. You're not going to make it in media in this city if you keep skewering Rogers.
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Re: Globe article on Jays TV deal 

Post#29 » by satyr9 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:06 pm

BTW, that 150m a year number is totally misleading. 3 Billion for the years 2015 through 2034 does not mean their rights were valued anywhere near 1/20th the total in 2011. In fact unless the Rangers are idiots, they 100% weren't. I'd say based on inflation and even low estimated rises in value for the TV property, the Rangers TV deal was valued at about 50-65 million (range for how much above inflation you'd expect value to rise. A couple extra percent goes a long way for a deal that big and the 50m low-end is about 5% above inflation) for the 2011 season; the one where it was reported the Jays got 36 million. So if the 36 million is at the end of a longer deal and values have definitely increased substantially in the last 5-10 years, that 36 million stops looking like such a crazy number.

Now, I still think the case for 70-80 in the near future is pretty justifiable (at least to a fan it is. I know I'm not a TV executive), but 36 vs. 150 makes it look almost criminal to a fan and it's not nearly that sinister.
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Post#30 » by Myth111 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:48 pm

I want to know if networks are actually making money off of those huge contracts. It does not seem possible to me. I understand this concept that networks are not making money off TV shows anymore but why does that mean they will make money off sports. Are more people going to watch sports now or something? If not, then why would advertisers pay more for the same amount of people? Are they that desperate to get their product/message out there that they will take a loss because they need to advertise somewhere on TV?
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Post#31 » by Aimless Outlook » Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:11 pm

Sports is turning into one of the few areas of TV that people actually want (need) to watch it live. Fewer people are willing to PVR a game and skip all the commercials, than they would with their favorite sitcom, drama, or even news.

They also can't get a live sports feed from Netflix/hulu/etc. And are forced to watch it through a cable broadcaster.

That's how I view the premium contracts at least.
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Re: Globe article on Jays TV deal 

Post#32 » by whysoserious » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:48 pm

Aimless Outlook wrote:Sports is turning into one of the few areas of TV that people actually want (need) to watch it live. Fewer people are willing to PVR a game and skip all the commercials, than they would with their favorite sitcom, drama, or even news.

They also can't get a live sports feed from Netflix/hulu/etc. And are forced to watch it through a cable broadcaster.

That's how I view the premium contracts at least.


I don't know about that, there is definitely something to watching it live but there are tons of people I know that like to PVR and just start the game about an hour in to allow for skipping the commercials but still see the result at the same time.
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Post#33 » by LittleOzzy » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:47 pm

Any word on a TV schedule yet, especially for spring training?

When Sportsnet One was introduced they mentioned it would be a place for more Spring Training games, but last season I think they only showed two.

I'm hoping for more this year. 10 would be nice considering the Yankess get them all and have for years.
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Re: Globe article on Jays TV deal 

Post#34 » by LittleOzzy » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:05 am

Sportsnet today announced its Toronto Blue Jays 2012 Grapefruit League broadcast schedule, including 11 games on Sportsnet 590 The Fan, five games on Sportsnet 960 The Fan and two games on Sportsnet East, Ontario, West and Pacific.

Television coverage gets underway on Sunday, Mar. 18 at 1 p.m. ET / 10 a.m. PT on Sportsnet East, Ontario, West and Pacific as the Jays host the Philadelphia Phillies in Dunedin, Florida. Sunday, April 1 marks Sportsnet’s second Blue Jays pre-season broadcast as the Blue Jays take on Pittsburgh at 1 p.m. ET / 10 a.m. PT on Sportsnet East, Ontario, West and Pacific. Buck Martinez will handle the play-by-play alongside analyst and former Blue Jay Pat Tabler.


http://www.sportsnet.ca/pressroom/2012/ ... tschedule/

Two games? Sportsnet sucks at promoting their own product. Every game on the Fan590 should be on TV using the same broadcast crew.
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Re: Globe article on Jays TV deal 

Post#35 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:40 am

Looks like a combination of cheapness and the fact that they probably believe that nobody will watch these ST games during hockey season (though I think they'd be surprised by how many might).
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Re: Globe article on Jays TV deal 

Post#36 » by s e n s i » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:21 am

Geddy wrote:
Wo1verine wrote:Does Parkes ever say anything negative about Rogers? Serious question.



I think he's trying his best to get on Sportsnet so he can be closer to the team.


yea pretty much or even get a job with the actual team down the line...only possible explanation
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Re: Globe article on Jays TV deal 

Post#37 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:27 am

Parkes has actually gone back and deleted some of his old blog posts on DJF that made him look juvenile. I don't know if he's done the same for posts where he criticized Rogers, but I wouldn't be surprised.
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Re: Globe article on Jays TV deal 

Post#38 » by J-Roc » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:35 am

whysoserious wrote:
Aimless Outlook wrote:Sports is turning into one of the few areas of TV that people actually want (need) to watch it live. Fewer people are willing to PVR a game and skip all the commercials, than they would with their favorite sitcom, drama, or even news.

They also can't get a live sports feed from Netflix/hulu/etc. And are forced to watch it through a cable broadcaster.

That's how I view the premium contracts at least.


I don't know about that, there is definitely something to watching it live but there are tons of people I know that like to PVR and just start the game about an hour in to allow for skipping the commercials but still see the result at the same time.


No doubt a 30sec skip gets you from the moment of an out to the first pitch of the next at-bat. But, watching something on delay is not available on Netflix and the like. I agree with Aimless and if it wasn't for sports, I might seriously look to cancel my cable tv.
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Re: Globe article on Jays TV deal 

Post#39 » by Homer Jay » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:12 am

Rogers just announced a dividend payment spike. Yeah they be rolling in it.

I'm going to buy a couple of thousand shares, and show up with the cert and ask to sit in the Owner's box, LOL.
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