Anthony Gose Steals Second, Third, and Home!

Champ Kind · Post #1 » by **Champ Kind** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:41 pm

Hey Everyone,

I was reading about yesterday's game, and it sounds like Gose is going to be a super exciting kid when he comes up. I can't remember the last time we had a prospect like this in our farm system with this kind of game changing speed.

I have been looking everywhere for some highlights of the steals, but all the highlights I have seen do not include his 3 steals in the 8th. Does anyone know where I could find this?

If Rasmus doesn't fire out of the gate over the first couple months, I think Gose is going to be putting some pressure on him for his spot.

Post #2 » by **YogiStewart** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:03 pm

video of GTFO

Tyrone Slothrop · Post #3 » by **Tyrone Slothrop** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:11 pm

Champ Kind wrote:Hey Everyone,

I was reading about yesterday's game, and it sounds like Gose is going to be a super exciting kid when he comes up. I can't remember the last time we had a prospect like this in our farm system with this kind of game changing speed.

I have been looking everywhere for some highlights of the steals, but all the highlights I have seen do not include his 3 steals in the 8th. Does anyone know where I could find this?

If Rasmus doesn't fire out of the gate over the first couple months, I think Gose is going to be putting some pressure on him for his spot.

I love Gose as a prospect, but it is extremely unlikely he's going to be in the majors this year, regardless of how Rasmus plays. He struck out over a quarter of his plate appearances in AA last year, that really needs to come down, especially considering his speed- he'll be able to leg out some infield grounders and induce errors if he can make better contact. But yeah, tough not to be excited about him.

CrymeTime · Post #4 » by **CrymeTime** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:12 pm

If he is unable to improve his swing, could he become the a guy that has more SBs than ABs?

LBJSeizedMyID · Post #5 » by **LBJSeizedMyID** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:19 pm

Champ Kind wrote:If Rasmus doesn't fire out of the gate over the first couple months, I think Gose is going to be putting some pressure on him for his spot.

No he won't

LBJSeizedMyID · Post #6 » by **LBJSeizedMyID** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:28 pm

YogiStewart wrote:video of GTFO

TSN.ca has a video showing the highlights of the game, but their crew clearly thought Gose stealing second, third and then home in the same inning was not all that exciting.

Relentless88 · Post #7 » by **Relentless88** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:39 pm

TSN and Sportsnet both have highlights of Thame's RBI single, but nothing on Gose.

number15 · Post #8 » by **number15** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:08 pm

Jake Marisknik guy looks like the more complete player, and most people outside the JAYS system would agree is the better prospect with more potential..... However, Gose will always have the edge cause he was AA's man for a while now. Its his job to lose, but i like the other guy more long term

Gose is the most exciting guy in the JAYS system, but he has a long way to go. I mean Rajai Davis is just as exciting...... when he gets on base, u know what i mean. Gose wont be a star in the MLB just based on speed. He's gotta improve.

Lateral Quicks · Post #9 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:50 pm

I don't know, he put up an OPS of .763 as a 20-year-old CF in AA with 70 SBs and .349 OBP. That's pretty damn good already. He just needs to make more contact and he should be good to go. I agree he has a long way to go to maximize his talent, but that doesn't mean he couldn't be a valuable piece sooner rather than later. I'd be perfectly fine with him continuing his development at the big league level if he can get on 33% of the time, steal 50 bases, and provide elite CF defense. Hopefully Rasmus shuts down that possibility, though.

number15 · Post #10 » by **number15** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:19 pm

the way Rasmus is going, i highly doubt he will become the player AA envisioned. Even if he changes everything around I dont think he will be good enough to bump Gose out of the future picture.

I see the future looking like this: LF- Mirisnick/ CF- Gose/ RF- Bautista

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i didnt mean Gose is not gonna be good. Just saying that to me Marisknick is the better pospect. Hopefully they r both in the future.

Avenger · Post #11 » by **Avenger** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:27 pm

I'm pretty sure Gose is the most likely player in the organization to be traded. I expect Rasmus to be good, he might not be at a superstar level or even all star caliber but he'll be a decent in CF and he'll hit enough to be a solid above average player. If the Jays are withing striking distance at the trade deadline, Alex has an obligation to put us over the top and Gose will be his best trading chip. We could easily get a guy like Shin Soo Choo with Gose as the main piece going the other way.

number15 · Post #12 » by **number15** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:35 pm

Avenger wrote:I'm pretty sure Gose is the most likely player in the organization to be traded. I expect Rasmus to be good, he might not be at a superstar level or even all star caliber but he'll be a decent in CF and he'll hit enough to be a solid above average player. If the Jays are withing striking distance at the trade deadline, Alex has an obligation to put us over the top and Gose will be his best trading chip. We could easily get a guy like Shin Soo Choo with Gose as the main piece going the other way.

I know what you mean, if Rasmus pans out and the fact we have Marisnick in the minors would make Gose expendable for the right price. However, I see AA dealing Mirisnick before Gose...... and even thats depending on how much Rasmus improves.

as for Shin Soo Choo putting the Jays over the top? I dont think so. Where is he gonna play in the OF. All i see is LF, if what ur saying is true and Rasmus improves. I rather keep Thames rather than Choo................... if you trade a guy like Gose, u package him and go all in, you go for a top end starter, well thats what id do.

thats what'll put the JAYS over the top if time comes

Avenger · Post #13 » by **Avenger** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:52 pm

There's no comparison between Thames and Choo and i actually like Thames but lets just end that there. He was dealing with a couple of injuries in 2011 and couldn't play to his potential but Choo has been amongst the best outfielders in Baseball ever since he's been a full time player. Between 2008-2010, Choo led all outfielders in OBP and is number 5 in WAR with far fewer games played than the players above him.

I expect Lind to be spectacularly awful once again, if you do get Choo you simply let EE play 1B full time, move Thames to DH and put Choo in the oufield. You hit him and his 400 OBP in front of Bautista and you have the best offence in baseball.

Then we trade some of our excess pitching for a solid MOR guy and we're as good as anybody in the AL East.

Griff83 · Post #14 » by **Griff83** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:35 pm

Gose for Shin Soo Choo?
No thanks.
If im trading Gose right now its in a package for a elite starter. I also dont know why many think Marisnick makes Gose expendable. Many scouts arent even convinced that Marisnick is a future CF'er when he reachs the bigs. As to the person who said everything thinks more of Marisnick, that isnt entirely true as Baseball America had Gose ranked #39 and Marisnick somewhere in the 60's.

flatjacket1 · Post #15 » by **flatjacket1** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:38 pm

number15 wrote:I see the future looking like this: LF- Mirisnick/ CF- Gose/ RF- Bautista

If you think Mar. will make the MLB with Bautista still being in RF you are mistaken. If our manager used advanced stats Bautista would already be playing 1B this season and with the way they handled Snider I believe he is destined for the move next season.

number15 wrote:Jake Marisknik guy looks like the more complete player, and most people outside the JAYS system would agree is the better prospect with more potential..... However, Gose will always have the edge cause he was AA's man for a while now. Its his job to lose, but i like the other guy more long term

Gose is the most exciting guy in the JAYS system, but he has a long way to go. I mean Rajai Davis is just as exciting...... when he gets on base, u know what i mean. Gose wont be a star in the MLB just based on speed. He's gotta improve.

Marisknik is a great player and more all around, but you can't forget what has gotten Gose such high praise is his perfect 80 speed. Fangraphs recently looked at 80 single tool prospects and Gose won for speed. Gose can have a HOF career which is what makes him the higher ceiling player by far. Jake is toolsy but is still at too low a level to even be considered a better prospect than Gose IMO.

Personally I think Gose (even today) could carve out an above average MLB career. Between his glove and his routes which make the most of his speed, he will contend for GG's on a yearly basis early in his career. He also has the potential to OBP .300+ which could net him 50+ bases yearly. If Gose can get a .360 OBP ever in his career mark him down for 70 bags EASILY. He stole 70 bags in AA with only 137 GP and a .350 OBP.

Its scary how good Gose can become.

Michael Bradley · Post #16 » by **Michael Bradley** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:44 am

Gose's performance in AA at age 20 was very impressive for someone as raw as him; 16 home runs and 62 walks in 587 PA with plus defense and plus speed at CF. He has to cut down his K's and put the ball in play a bit more, but at age 20 to put up a .763 OPS with some power and decent walk rate in AA makes him a legit prospect. If he ends up killing the PCL, he is going to be a top prospect in baseball given his defense/speed.

flatjacket1 · Post #17 » by **flatjacket1** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:54 am

Michael Bradley wrote:He has to cut down his K's and put the ball in play a bit more, but at age 20 to put up a .763 OPS with some power and decent walk rate in AA makes him a legit prospect.

He was instructed to swing for power - even when down 0-2. He was basically told to strike out more in favor of his development. Hes supposed to be unleashed this season so this will be a true indicator of his flaws and strengths.