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Re: Buster Olney said Jays could land Carlos Quentin 

Post#21 » by Blessed » Thu Jun 7, 2012 4:42 pm

Wouldnt mind him as long as the price isnt to high. I would love his bat, but his defense is garbage.
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Re: Buster Olney said Jays could land Carlos Quentin 

Post#22 » by tecumseh18 » Thu Jun 7, 2012 4:53 pm

flatjacket1 wrote:Deadline prices are notoriously high. Carlos Beltran cost Zach Wheeler (who was ranked 55th best prospect in the league before a great start to 2011) so I could see it being a similar package as Carlos is much younger. It would likely be Gose+


Well, when you put it that way. That's a lot to give up just to help get into a one game playoff. Those sort of deals make more sense when you already know you've won the division, but want more help getting to the Series.
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Re: Buster Olney said Jays could land Carlos Quentin 

Post#23 » by flatjacket1 » Thu Jun 7, 2012 5:00 pm

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flatjacket1 wrote:Deadline prices are notoriously high. Carlos Beltran cost Zach Wheeler (who was ranked 55th best prospect in the league before a great start to 2011) so I could see it being a similar package as Carlos is much younger. It would likely be Gose+


Well, when you put it that way. That's a lot to give up just to help get into a one game playoff. Those sort of deals make more sense when you already know you've won the division, but want more help getting to the Series.


The thing is the chances of us getting him and getting into a 1 game playoff are low. He's averaged just over 1 rWAR over the last 6 years. Theoretically that provides us with an extra win if we play him in LF. Is that worth 6 years of Gose?
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Re: Buster Olney said Jays could land Carlos Quentin 

Post#24 » by Rhettmatic » Fri Jun 8, 2012 9:17 pm

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-h ... e-in-trade

The Toronto Blue Jays are expected to be among the teams targeting Padres hot-hitting outfielder Carlos Quentin if, as expected, he's made available.

The Blue Jays are said to have long liked Quentin. They had talks this winter about several then-White Sox players, including pitcher Gavin Floyd, and wound up making a trade for closer Sergio Santos. Quentin could be the best hitter on the market this trading season, and his value is only enhanced by an unreal start that includes a 1.734 OPS after a week since returning from offseason knee surgery.

"Wouldn't he look good in left field in Toronto?'' one competing GM wondered aloud. Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos declined comment, as is his policy regarding rival players.

The Padres are holding out some slim hope of retaining Quentin, a San Diego product they acquired this winter who's eligible for free agency after the year. However, the Padres are inhibited by exceedingly low revenues and perhaps also by an ownership situation that is expected to remain unsettled at least until the August owners meetings.

"They're in a tough spot on (keeping) Quentin,'' one competing executive opined.

San Diego showed its smarts by trading for Quentin, but their ownership scenario became unsettled weeks after the deal when aspiring owner Jeff Moorad's bid to buy the team from long-time owner John Moores failed late this spring.

The Padres have no $10-million-a-year players currently on their roster, but one baseline comp for Quentin would seem to be Michael Cuddyer's $31.5 million, three-year deal with the Rockies, depending on Quentin's health and finish.

However, it is believed Quentin would seek significantly more than that, as he has a greater ability to carry a team when hot than Cuddyer, as reflected in a stellar .846 career OPS. Quentin has had more injury history than Cuddyer, but when he is sound and hot, he is an even bigger bat than Cuddyer. Obviously, that's the way he is going right now.
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Re: Buster Olney said Jays could land Carlos Quentin 

Post#25 » by Al_Oliver » Sat Jun 9, 2012 1:09 am

No, he would look good as the DH. I thought he was an awful fielder?
They can have Thames and Lind in return. Not sure how much I would like to give up for a DH
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Re: Buster Olney said Jays could land Carlos Quentin 

Post#26 » by flatjacket1 » Sat Jun 9, 2012 7:44 pm

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Avenger wrote:that's all the more reason to pursue him, San Diego got him for peanuts in the offseason and they were getting him for a year, he should come pretty cheap at the trade deadline.


That's great for this season, but then every year after that... yeah.

you're hilariously wrong, just because you can't pencil in a guy in the lineup for the next 5 years doesn't mean you don't go after him.

So your saying go for a guy who will be with us a few months? Will he push us over the top?
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Re: Buster Olney said Jays could land Carlos Quentin 

Post#27 » by vaff87 » Sat Jun 9, 2012 8:20 pm

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dagger wrote:That's the joke, people don't even know what we would have to give up. I'd at least like to know the price before saying no. Obviously, all of our top drawer prospects are out of the question, but a low second tier prospect who has only a slim chance of making our roster long term? You at least have to think a little harder about it. Maybe the Padres have scouted our retreads like Lind. We could pay a majority of Lind's salary.


It would be high. Deadline prices are notoriously high. Carlos Beltran cost Zach Wheeler (who was ranked 55th best prospect in the league before a great start to 2011) so I could see it being a similar package as Carlos is much younger. It would likely be Gose+


The Jays would not trade Gose for Quintin. There's been nothing about AA that would indicate he would make a move like that. So that's not even worth worrying/debating about.
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Re: Buster Olney said Jays could land Carlos Quentin 

Post#28 » by flatjacket1 » Sat Jun 9, 2012 8:35 pm

I think that's exactly the case. I'm not worried about overpaying for a 1.5 rWAR player. He just isn't worth that much, but will cost a lot in a trade. AA cares about value.
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Re: Buster Olney said Jays could land Carlos Quentin 

Post#29 » by vaff87 » Sat Jun 9, 2012 8:44 pm

flatjacket1 wrote:I think that's exactly the case. I'm not worried about overpaying for a 1.5 rWAR player. He just isn't worth that much, but will cost a lot in a trade. AA cares about value.


Yes. And AA puts a very high value on "middle of the diamond" players. He's not going to trade one of his valued middle of the diamond prospects for a half-year rental of a DH. It's as un-AA move as there is.
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Re: Buster Olney said Jays could land Carlos Quentin 

Post#30 » by kwamebargnani » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:01 am

What's the point? Just bring up Snider.

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