Jose Bautista trades (FANTASY IDEAS)

[RaptorGuy]

since we're talking pure fantasy

Jose Bautista, JP Arencibia, Adam Lind, Rajai Davis, Darren Oliver, Jason Frasor and Anthony Gose for Justin Masterson, Shin Soo Choo, Michael Brantley, Vinnie Pestano and Carlos Santana.

Not a chance... Don't want quantity over quality. We need pitching, not hitting.

[CanadaB-Ball]

since we're talking pure fantasy

Jose Bautista, JP Arencibia, Adam Lind, Rajai Davis, Darren Oliver, Jason Frasor and Anthony Gose for Justin Masterson, Shin Soo Choo, Michael Brantley, Vinnie Pestano and Carlos Santana.

I don't even know where to begin.

That is, bar none, the worst trade proposal I've ever seen on these forums. That's saying something.

[Avenger]

that might be because you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Bautista and Gose are the only players in that deal with any significant value. Maybe you're one of the delusional Jays fans who thinks JP is a top 10 catcher or that Lind is back to his 2009 form or that you're getting A prospects for 2 months of Darren Oliver.

Justin Masterson can be a reliable 2/3 guy in the AL East and Vinnie Pestano is one of the best relievers in Baseball. The offence actually gets better, yeah the down grade from Bautista to Choo(who is bouncing back to his .300 AVG and .400 OBP level) is significant but you more than make up for it by replacing that bum behind the plate with one of the best catchers in Baseball who just had a poor first half but is otherwise an on base machine.

[RaptorGuy]

that might be because you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Bautista and Gose are the only players in that deal with any significant value. Maybe you're one of the delusional Jays fans who thinks JP is a top 10 catcher or that Lind is back to his 2009 form or that you're getting A prospects for 2 months of Darren Oliver.

Justin Masterson can be a reliable 2/3 guy in the AL East and Vinnie Pestano is one of the best relievers in Baseball. The offence actually gets better, yeah the down grade from Bautista to Choo(who is bouncing back to his .300 AVG and .400 OBP level) is significant but you more than make up for it by replacing that bum behind the plate with one of the best catchers in Baseball who just had a poor first half but is otherwise an on base machine.

Pestano would be nice, I see Masterson as a 3/4 guy. Santana is great, but we do not need catching. I do see D'Arnaud catching for the Jays soon (if he can stay healthy) than JP... We don't need Choo if you already have Bautista, Gose, Rasmus (and some younger prospects in the system) We are okay in the outfield (I'd make an effort to get Upton if he is going to be traded, just talk now)

We should go after Liriano. Felix Hernandez is my ultimate wish

[spykelee]

I liked the spring-training idea of Bautista for Trout and Trumbo. I think I said as much, I can't remember.

Hindsight is 20/20, though.

I put it in writing on March 24

viewtopic.php?f=123&t=1171007&start=15

From that same thread...

(That said, I'd be interested in Mike Stanton, although not necessarily for Bautista. Stanton will hit 40 home runs for the next ten years.)

[CanadaB-Ball]

that might be because you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Bautista and Gose are the only players in that deal with any significant value. Maybe you're one of the delusional Jays fans who thinks JP is a top 10 catcher or that Lind is back to his 2009 form or that you're getting A prospects for 2 months of Darren Oliver.

Justin Masterson can be a reliable 2/3 guy in the AL East and Vinnie Pestano is one of the best relievers in Baseball. The offence actually gets better, yeah the down grade from Bautista to Choo(who is bouncing back to his .300 AVG and .400 OBP level) is significant but you more than make up for it by replacing that bum behind the plate with one of the best catchers in Baseball who just had a poor first half but is otherwise an on base machine.

It makes absolutely no sense.

If you trade Buatista, you're trading him to build, not compete. If you aspire to compete in this division, then why the hell would you trade one of the best hitters in the entire Major Leagues, who also has (arguably) the best contract? It doesn't make sense.

Choo is okay, but he's not very young, and Pestano is a reliever. Justin Masterson is likely a four, maybe a number three, in the AL East, while Michael Brantley simply isn't very good. Carlos Santana is the only attractive piece in that deal, and there's no way you trade Bautista and Gose, along with an old but valuable reliever in Oliver, for Carlos Santana and a bunch of pieces the Jays already have (excluding Choo, but he would be useless in the case of a rebuild). Not to mention that we already have a catcher for the future in d'Arnaud, so you would probably be acquiring Santana as a first-baseman who can fill in at catcher once in a while.

In any scenario where Bautista is traded (obviously there's a very small chance he will be), you can rest assured that this will not be a deal that takes place. Not while Anthopoulos is the GM, anyway.

[Hamyltowne]

I liked the spring-training idea of Bautista for Trout and Trumbo. I think I said as much, I can't remember.

Hindsight is 20/20, though.

I put it in writing on March 24

viewtopic.php?f=123&t=1171007&start=15

You did. Good memory.

Flatjacket did, too. He's even got it in his signature.

[Hamyltowne]

From that same thread...

(That said, I'd be interested in Mike Stanton, although not necessarily for Bautista. Stanton will hit 40 home runs for the next ten years.)

Spyke, you're calling me out!



Good trade idea, though, no?

[spykelee]

From that same thread...

(That said, I'd be interested in Mike Stanton, although not necessarily for Bautista. Stanton will hit 40 home runs for the next ten years.)

Spyke, you're calling me out!



Good trade idea, though, no?

Hamyltowneblunders.com

not a bad deal. I'm not sure if I'd pull the trigger on that or not. It's pretty close...

[Hamyltowne]

Hamyltowneblunders.com

I learn as I go.

hamyltowneblunders.com is sig worthy, though. I quite like it. Sounds like a baseball blog.