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Post#81 » by torontoaces04 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:52 pm

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Post#82 » by satyr9 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:00 pm

Tyrone Slothrop wrote:Orioles getting Norris.


You can trade competitive balance picks?

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/07/o ... orris.html

Maybe this shocked me last year too, but when I read this I was like :o :o
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Post#83 » by CrymeTime » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:16 pm

It's funny that Baltimore even had a Competitive Balance pick.

The MLB should change the rules on draft picks and compensation for FA.

Compensation picks for FA:
Type A- 1A and 2A draft pick
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Allow teams to trade any pick they have (excluding compensation picks)

This could add alot to trades.
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Post#84 » by Schad » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:20 pm

CrymeTime wrote:It's funny that Baltimore even had a Competitive Balance pick.



Baltimore, I can buy. But last year, the Tigers had a CB pick. This year, the Cards have one..
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Post#85 » by Michael Bradley » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:01 pm

It will be interesting to see what the payroll is next season. If it is around the same as this season, then the Jays inactivity this trade deadline is baffling since even bringing back the same team next year will run the payroll over $140M (assuming Lind's option is picked up and Johnson is offered arbitration). Not to mention they will have a tough situation with Rasmus as he enters his final year of arbitration and will either have to be extended (further denting future payroll) or let go after next season.

AA is going to have to work some magic this off-season. Either that, or he has already been told that payroll will reach $150M and he will go after Garza types in free agency to add on to whatever he already has. I doubt the latter is likely (Rogers isn't known to act like that, but who knows).
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Post#86 » by Strav » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:17 pm

I thought we might be inquiring about Kendrick and we were. I see AA coming back to this one in the offseason even despite Reyes being a better fit at 2B as he ages. Both Aybar and Kendrick supposedly would be available and the Angels want a starting caliber pitcher in return - sign/trade JJ + other stuffs.
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Post#87 » by akakalakin » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:31 pm

Michael Bradley wrote:It will be interesting to see what the payroll is next season. If it is around the same as this season, then the Jays inactivity this trade deadline is baffling since even bringing back the same team next year will run the payroll over $140M (assuming Lind's option is picked up and Johnson is offered arbitration). Not to mention they will have a tough situation with Rasmus as he enters his final year of arbitration and will either have to be extended (further denting future payroll) or let go after next season.

AA is going to have to work some magic this off-season. Either that, or he has already been told that payroll will reach $150M and he will go after Garza types in free agency to add on to whatever he already has. I doubt the latter is likely (Rogers isn't known to act like that, but who knows).



why pay 140 million for a last place team which is what these guys will be without massive change?
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Post#88 » by Lateral Quicks » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:05 pm

If AA doesn't at least alleviate the reliever log jam, it will be a pretty big disappointment.

Of course, knowing AA, he's more likely to add to it than subtract.
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Post#89 » by Raptor_Guy » Thu Aug 1, 2013 3:23 am

Why wouldn't AA at least trade Oliver?

We already have a logjam in the bullpen, 4 lefties, and he's done at the end of year. Why wouldn't he trade him and at least get something for him?
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Post#90 » by Schad » Thu Aug 1, 2013 3:30 am

Raptor_Guy wrote:Why wouldn't AA at least trade Oliver?

We already have a logjam in the bullpen, 4 lefties, and he's done at the end of year. Why wouldn't he trade him and at least get something for him?


Plan to try and move him prior to the waiver trade deadline, I guess. But as I doubt that he's likely to have a great deal of value in a few weeks, I'd have just gotten him off the roster.
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Post#91 » by LBJSeizedMyID » Thu Aug 1, 2013 12:50 pm

Or perhaps this is John Buck again. AA did do quite a bit of courting to get Oliver to come back, and perhaps promises were made. If that's the case, we all know the one thing AA has done during his tenure is keep his promise.
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Post#92 » by Raptor_Guy » Thu Aug 1, 2013 1:46 pm

LBJSeizedMyID wrote:Or perhaps this is John Buck again. AA did do quite a bit of courting to get Oliver to come back, and perhaps promises were made. If that's the case, we all know the one thing AA has done during his tenure is keep his promise.


That's true. I think the one team he could've gone to would've been Texas, but AA wouldn't have much leverage there if it is in fact the only place he could've been traded to.
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Post#93 » by TorontoRaptures » Thu Aug 1, 2013 8:16 pm

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Garmfay wrote:LETS GO ALL IN with our 12 man bullpen next year. How the hell are we going to keep guys like Lincoln, Wagner, Stilson, Carreno, L.Perez etc rotting in AAA next year. Move some damn bullpen pieces


That is like the Leafs dickering with the 23rd man on the team, AA needed to address some major issues and failed again.


We shouldn't be looking to address those issues at the trade deadline; the cost of doing business right now is higher than any other point, and we're going nowhere this season.

But we should be looking to trade excess relievers for pieces that could be used to solve those issues in the off-season.

What if some of the relievers start struggling? A lot of guys (Perez, Wagner, Cecil, Delabar, to name a few) are having career years. Certainly we want to keep some of them going forward but perhaps now is the time to trade at least one of them.
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Post#94 » by Schad » Thu Aug 1, 2013 8:32 pm

Sorry, that was badly-worded. I meant that we should trade the excess relievers now, to acquire prospects who could then be used in the off-season as trade bait to fill our other holes.
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Re: Ye Olde Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#95 » by Schad » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:42 pm

Bumping this for the fast-approaching non-waiver deadline.

Nice deal today for the Mets...they turned a couple months of Marlon Byrd and John Buck into a second base prospect with some real potential. Here's hoping that someone's desperate enough to ship something worth having for our junk.
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Post#96 » by akakalakin » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:38 pm

could see Buck coming back to push JP
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Post#97 » by satyr9 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:00 pm

akakalakin wrote:could see Buck coming back to push JP


He already went to the Pirates this afternoon.
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Post#98 » by akakalakin » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:17 pm

satyr9 wrote:
akakalakin wrote:could see Buck coming back to push JP


He already went to the Pirates this afternoon.



I mean he's on the loose, short term with Pirates
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Post#99 » by Schad » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:01 pm

akakalakin wrote:could see Buck coming back to push JP


One is bad enough.
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