The Adam Lind dilemma

[Chevy Chase]

I think this year has been fools gold. I'd buy him out and put EE on 1st.

Let Melky DH to save his legs and play Gose/Davis/other.

And is Goins not a reasonable replacement for 2B for next year?

[Skin Blues]

According to Fangraphs' interpretation of value, he was worth $7M this year so far. And honestly it seems like it went about as well as possible. The previous three years combined were worth -$3.6M (yes, that's a negative sign). If he has a sub-par year in 2014 (pretty likely) then he still has a $1M buyout versus $7.5M option. So if you take that into account, it's essentially a $6M option this year. Which is pretty iffy, when guys like DeJesus (at least 1.3 WAR every season since 2005) are being passed around for free. But if there aren't any better options for a similar price then yeah... I'll stick with my initial reaction of bringing him back.

The $1m in 2015 (and the $500k in 2016) is baked in anyway...we buy him out this off-season, we still have to pay it. Thus, the 2014 option is effectively $5m, with a $6.5m decision the year after. I'd lean toward picking up the former, but he'd have to be pretty damned good to even think about picking up the latter in a year's time.

Are you sure about that? They have to pay ALL future buyouts, so $3.5M, if they decline his 2014 option? That makes no sense.

[Skin Blues]

is Goins not a reasonable replacement for 2B for next year?

A 25 year old rookie that slashed 257/311/369 in AAA. Jeez, I know we set the bar pretty low at 2B when we signed Maicer as a starter, but I really, REALLY hope Goins isn't in the Jays' plans for next season.

[Schad]

Are you sure about that? They have to pay ALL future buyouts, so $3.5M, if they decline his 2014 option? That makes no sense.

In declining his 2014 option, they'd also be declining his 2015 and 2016 options. To the best of my understanding, it functions in the same fashion as a multi-year partially-guaranteed contract in the NBA.

[Skin Blues]

Are you sure about that? They have to pay ALL future buyouts, so $3.5M, if they decline his 2014 option? That makes no sense.

In declining his 2014 option, they'd also be declining his 2015 and 2016 options. To the best of my understanding, it functions in the same fashion as a multi-year partially-guaranteed contract in the NBA.

OK well I have no idea of the rules in the NBA but I've never heard of that being the case in MLB. Do you have a link or something to clarify it? I'm always intrigued when something I've believed my entire life turns out to be wrong.

[Schad]

OK well I have no idea of the rules in the NBA but I've never heard of that being the case in MLB. Do you have a link or something to clarify it? I'm always intrigued when something I've believed my entire life turns out to be wrong.

You may be right. It's one of those things that I encountered somewhere and added to the rusted bear trap of useless knowledge that collects in my head, but as I cannot find any supporting evidence (and for what it's worth, Cot's listing of the guaranteed portion of his contract would back you) it's quite possibly one of those things that has been distorted by said head on account of the stupid. Tried finding something definitive yea or nay, failed miserably.

[flatjacket1]

I think this year has been fools gold. I'd buy him out and put EE on 1st.

But what makes this year fools gold? There has been tons of evidence that he has changed and progressed, and you don't even cite any reason to why.

Let Melky DH to save his legs and play Gose/Davis/other.

Melky just had a tumor removed from his back. Unless he grows another one, I think he should be fine in LF.

And is Goins not a reasonable replacement for 2B for next year?

I don't really agree with using him as a full-time guy. I'd rather look at Maicer as an internal option.