Does AA get canned if the Jays fail to make playoffs again ?

[s e n s i]

last year they targeted the young female demographic with their 'stadium love' crap as a bunch of players half-assedly mimic baseball movements on a makeshift stage surrounded by random people cheering on scaffolding. this year, it's much of the same, except they just changed the song (hey brother) or had some guy with a deep voice saying we're going to 'stand tall'. it seems like a very low-budget ad campaign, surprise surprise, but it lacks creativity and makes the hardcore fans like us scoff every time the commercial comes on

[Randle McMurphy]

last year they targeted the young female demographic with their 'stadium love' crap as a bunch of players half-assedly mimic baseball movements on a makeshift stage surrounded by random people cheering on scaffolding. this year, it's much of the same, except they just changed the song (hey brother) or had some guy with a deep voice saying we're going to 'stand tall'. it seems like a very low-budget ad campaign, surprise surprise, but it lacks creativity and makes the hardcore fans like us scoff every time the commercial comes on

It just tells me how out of touch the marketing team is with this city's baseball fans. I suppose that shouldn't be any surprise, though.

[Waylon Mercy]

Did anyone watch the Sportsnet Edwin documentary?

Nice to know when we make a rare good deal its because the other team insists we take the
player we have no interest in.

[Parataxis]

What will get AA in the end isn't the Marlins trade, or the Dickey signing (those are both moves that people wanted him to make. It's the sort of deals that are needed if we wanted to compete while Bats was still with us)

What's going to get AA is holding on to Gibbons. That's his Waterloo.

[Michael Bradley]

Did anyone watch the Sportsnet Edwin documentary?

Nice to know when we make a rare good deal its because the other team insists we take the
player we have no interest in.

Encarnacion in 2009 was not the same player he is today. He was a bad defensive 3B with a solid bat, but not good enough with the bat to compensate for his glove. It wasn't until he changed positions and obviously took a gigantic step forward with the bat in 2012 that he became the player that he is today. I'm willing to bet many teams would have passed on Encarnacion at his Reds salary back then. I wouldn't look at it as a knock on the Jays front office (JPR or AA).

Also, he was waived a year later (then waived again by the A's) before the Jays brought him back on a totally separate contract. It was two completely different transactions (the initial trade and then reacquiring him). The second transaction was the Jays wanting him (obviously on a much friendlier contract), while the first one was the Reds insisting they take his salary.

[kwamebargnani]

What will get AA in the end isn't the Marlins trade, or the Dickey signing (those are both moves that people wanted him to make. It's the sort of deals that are needed if we wanted to compete while Bats was still with us)

Those are sort of deals that kill the franchise, not essential to compete. There are so many ways to improve your team, and AA just chose the least efficient way possible. Aside, his inability to identify scrubs (Thames, Goins, Sierra, DeRosa, Vizquel, Jo-Jo Reyes etc) and his boner for relievers should be enough to get him fired.

[Waylon Mercy]

Did anyone watch the Sportsnet Edwin documentary?

Nice to know when we make a rare good deal its because the other team insists we take the
player we have no interest in.

Encarnacion in 2009 was not the same player he is today. He was a bad defensive 3B with a solid bat, but not good enough with the bat to compensate for his glove. It wasn't until he changed positions and obviously took a gigantic step forward with the bat in 2012 that he became the player that he is today. I'm willing to bet many teams would have passed on Encarnacion at his Reds salary back then. I wouldn't look at it as a knock on the Jays front office (JPR or AA).

Also, he was waived a year later (then waived again by the A's) before the Jays brought him back on a totally separate contract. It was two completely different transactions (the initial trade and then reacquiring him). The second transaction was the Jays wanting him (obviously on a much friendlier contract), while the first one was the Reds insisting they take his salary.

I know they talked about all that in the documentary. The point I was making is that the 3 best players
on the team were total flukes...Bautista, EE and Reyes because the Marlins decided to have a fire sale.
Not because of front office genius but because of fluke and imagine how things would look without
all 3 right now.

What will get AA in the end isn't the Marlins trade, or the Dickey signing (those are both moves that people wanted him to make. It's the sort of deals that are needed if we wanted to compete while Bats was still with us)

What's going to get AA is holding on to Gibbons. That's his Waterloo.

I agree on Gibbons but a lot of people and most on here thought the Dickey trade was horrible
and were against making it.

[WiggOuts]

he swung for the fences and ended up getting beamed in the nuts

[Rhythm043]

And now we have to "stand tall"...gtfo.

Worst marketing campaign ever. Asking the fans to stand tall? The ones who've stuck by the organization through the two decades of mediocrity are only going to be irked by it (like us) and the casuals aren't going to care.

Yep, very stupid marketing campaign. It's been way way too long for Jays fans, and no I do not care that Leaf fans have been waiting longer.

I can't even bother watching every Jays game anymore, too much of a waste of time for the end result we get every Sept.