Dagger's Pound of Flesh

satyr9 · Post #1 » by **satyr9** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:09 am

If Bob finds out it was you Dagger, he's gonna hate you more than he hates Buckner.

BramptonYute · Post #2 » by **BramptonYute** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:21 am

What?

Randle McMurphy · Post #3 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:31 am

Nored wrote:What?

They scapegoated the bullpen coach.

dagger · Post #4 » by **dagger** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:35 pm

You mean Luis Rivera survived the purge? How is that possible?

As for Stanley, it should be recalled that he was only promoted because Pat Hentgen wanted to be re-assigned to have more time to be with his sick father. This is really making change happen.

Skin Blues · Post #5 » by **Skin Blues** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:35 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Nored wrote:What?

They scapegoated the bullpen coach.

Nobody can ever just be fired. It's always scapegoated. haha

Randle McMurphy · Post #6 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:27 am

Skin Blues wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Nored wrote:What?

They scapegoated the bullpen coach.

Nobody can ever just be fired. It's always scapegoated. haha

It certainly is when the organization needs a fall guy for their bullpen woes.

s e n s i · Post #7 » by **s e n s i** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:21 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Skin Blues wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:They scapegoated the bullpen coach.

Nobody can ever just be fired. It's always scapegoated. haha

It certainly is when the organization needs a fall guy for their bullpen woes.

i don't believe this is a case of needing a "fall guy". it seems much more likely to me that stanley didn't take his job seriously enough or simply wasn't good at his job rather than AA sitting in his office and plotting this genius plan to deflect attention from the actual problem (which isn't really a problem per se but instead a natural occurrence in baseball re: relievers being great one year and bad the next). this piece of news is practically irrelevant in blue jays land as expected, it wasn't making the front page of anything. heck, it's barely newsworthy period as is typically the case when a bullpen coach is canned. i think "housekeeping" is a more appropriate term here.

Randle McMurphy · Post #8 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:31 pm

s e n s i wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Skin Blues wrote:Nobody can ever just be fired. It's always scapegoated. haha

It certainly is when the organization needs a fall guy for their bullpen woes.

i don't believe this is a case of needing a "fall guy". it seems much more likely to me that stanley didn't take his job seriously enough or simply wasn't good at his job rather than AA sitting in his office and plotting this genius plan to deflect attention from the actual problem (which isn't really a problem per se but instead a natural occurrence in baseball re: relievers being great one year and bad the next). this piece of news is practically irrelevant in blue jays land as expected, it wasn't making the front page of anything. heck, it's barely newsworthy period as is typically the case when a bullpen coach is canned. i think "housekeeping" is a more appropriate term here.

In just about every interview since the season ended, AA has brought up the bullpen struggles as a primary reason for why the team failed (often ignoring all the several other more important reasons that he was responsible for). And coaches routinely are the ones to take the hit for their players failing in professional sports, it's a common occurrence at the end of a season.

Now I don't know the exact reason(s) why they got rid of Stanley, but let's not pretend anybody here knows anything about how effectively this guy did his job.