Jays, Cubs most interested in Papelbon

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Maybe we can trick him into AJ Jimenez and Dwight Smith

[North_of_Border]

Cole Hamels, Jonathan Papolban, Ken Giles, 10 million cash

for

Dioner Navarro, Dalton Pompey, Max Pentecost, Matt Boyd, Jeff Hoffman

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The All in trade... Phillys get their young catcher and outfirlder, plus a rising pitcher and the guy consider a steal at the draft. Navarro as bonus. Even Amaro should like this....... if not.... well then i have no words.

Jays get their ace, a key reliever and a closer who's salary would be reduced to 11 million for 2 season.

again... this is the kind of deal you make when you know you are going for it. Big Time.

[MikeM]

Rather trade Sanchez or Norris than Hoffman.

[rarefind]

Jays in on Tyler Clippard according to ESPN.

[Schad]

again... this is the kind of deal you make when you know you are going for it. Big Time.

It's the sort of trade that tends to backfire Big Time, if nothing else.

Not that it matters...you have the Jays taking on well north of $100m in salary while gutting the farm system, and that's just not going to happen.

[Michael Bradley]

Jays in on Tyler Clippard according to ESPN.

Should be far easier to acquire Clippard since he's a free agent at the end of the season, won't yield any draft compensation being traded mid-season (even Oakland won't give him the QO at the end of the season if they keep him), and Beane is far more reasonable to trade with than Amaro.

[Schad]

Jays in on Tyler Clippard according to ESPN.

Should be far easier to acquire Clippard since he's a free agent at the end of the season, won't yield any draft compensation being traded mid-season (even Oakland won't give him the QO at the end of the season if they keep him), and Beane is far more reasonable to trade with than Amaro.

Clippard's peripherals are pretty scary, so I wouldn't give up a tonne. Of course, Beane also knows that Clippard's peripherals are pretty scary, and likely won't expect a tonne.

[Randle McMurphy]

A GB rate of 16.2%?

Don't see that translating well to the dome.

[Schad]

A GB rate of 16.2%?

Don't see that translating well to the dome.

He's definitely an extreme flyball pitcher. Has made it work in the past thanks to a tonne of popups and strikeouts...at his current rates he'd be a scary proposition, but he could be pretty cheap and very useful if he returns to 2009-2014 rates.

[dagger]

This is a good time to remind Beeston and Anthopolous that they have always said that when there is good reason to ask, the board has always said more money is there. Now, couple that with Jamie Campbell saying TV ratings are great, because the team is winning, and I'd like to know why we have to pay for talent upgrades with prospects to avoid absorbing salary.

[Michael Bradley]

I didn't realize Clippard has been that bad. Doesn't look very appealing, unless the Jays take a cheap gamble in hopes that he regains his pre-2015 form.

With Sanchez questionable for his next start, I wonder if acquiring a starter and pushing Sanchez into the pen for the 2nd half might be worth a look. I can't imagine Sanchez, even if he stays healthy/effective, will be much of an innings eater from this point on.

[Schad]

This is a good time to remind Beeston and Anthopolous that they have always said that when there is good reason to ask, the board has always said more money is there. Now, couple that with Jamie Campbell saying TV ratings are great, because the team is winning, and I'd like to know why we have to pay for talent upgrades with prospects to avoid absorbing salary.

Last year put that to bed. If there was no money available when we were holding a playoff spot on deadline day, there's no extra money coming.

That doesn't mean that we have zero money right now. It's quite possible that AA chose to leave a few mil unspent in the winter to ensure that we didn't run into the same problem as last year, where we couldn't make any deals that weren't revenue neutral. It's also possible that the modest rebound in the CAD has opened a little breathing room...not because it's much better than at the start of the calendar year, but because it's no longer trending down, so the bean counters may have stopped wetting themselves over the possibility that we were heading back toward a 65 cent dollar.

[Schad]

I didn't realize Clippard has been that bad. Doesn't look very appealing, unless the Jays take a cheap gamble in hopes that he regains his pre-2015 form.

With Sanchez questionable for his next start, I wonder if acquiring a starter and pushing Sanchez into the pen for the 2nd half might be worth a look. I can't imagine Sanchez, even if he stays healthy/effective, will be much of an innings eater from this point on.

With so many teams hanging around .500, the starter market is going to be brutally expensive. Kasmir on a rental is probably the best performance/cost option, and he'd still require us to part with someone we'd rather not give up.

My preference? Buy low on someone like Samardzija, if the White Sox fall out of it. Similar to McCarthy last year, he's been better than his numbers suggest, and the Sox aren't likely to make re-signing him a priority.

[Randle McMurphy]

This is a good time to remind Beeston and Anthopolous that they have always said that when there is good reason to ask, the board has always said more money is there. Now, couple that with Jamie Campbell saying TV ratings are great, because the team is winning, and I'd like to know why we have to pay for talent upgrades with prospects to avoid absorbing salary.

That particular lie was exposed last year. As Schad mentioned, they were in a playoff spot at the trade deadline last year and didn't add anybody at all for financial reasons. There's no reason to think it will be any different this time around (especially now that we know that Ed Rogers wants Beeston and his administration out).