ST: Orioles @ Jays | June 19-21 | Sportsnet

[Raps in 4]

No idea why Gibbons brought in Cecil to pitch in today's game, after the outing he had yesterday.

That choice was easy as the only other option was Tepera. Osuna was not available after having pitched the previous 2 days.

All the more reason why we need to improve the bullpen.

Have to admit, O'day is pretty much lights out. Wish he was pitching for our team instead.

Everyone in their bullpen is lights out.

[Xaos]

Tepera, Copeland and Coke all optioned to Buffalo.

[JaysRule15]

Tepera was an unfortunate casualty of the brutal loss today. Dude had pitched pretty well for the most part. I'll be happy if I never see Coke or Copeland in a Blue Jays jersey again.

[Illuminati_]

Rasmus having a good season...

[Illuminati_]

Why was he basically released again

[Boogie!]

can we get somepitching already.

[whysoserious]

WTF Cecil, seriously, this guy should not be the closer.

I always like Janssen but never felt he was a closer by definition of the old mould but damn he was effective and a million times better than anything we've gotten this year.

[Michael Bradley]

Went out and didn't see the game after the Jays took the lead but wasn't surprised by the result. Cecil has no command of any of his pitches at this point. I'm not sure what has happened to him, but he needs to fix it before he can be counted on for high leverage innings. Not having 2013-14 Cecil makes this team worse.

The real issue with this game was not the pen, it was starting Copeland again. AA has some decent options in AAA to fill Sanchez's rotation spot and he's picked the worst options (Copeland, and now Redmond apparently). That's not going to help the pen having to clean up 7 innings.

[BramptonYute]

Tepera, Copeland and Coke all optioned to Buffalo.

Is Travis going to be on the guys coming back?

[dagger]

Tepera, Copeland and Coke all optioned to Buffalo.

Is Travis going to be on the guys coming back?

Most likely.

[dagger]

Interesting debate forming in the media about trading for this season to plug the obvious pitching holes or holding on to our best assets. Rose DiManno (I hate her) is for dealing to save the season, Cathal Kelly seems to believe most fans can't stomach the thought of another Dickey trade and want to retain hope for next season when Stroman is back, maybe Sanchez or Norris have matured a bit, etc.

[JaysRule15]

Went out and didn't see the game after the Jays took the lead but wasn't surprised by the result. Cecil has no command of any of his pitches at this point. I'm not sure what has happened to him, but he needs to fix it before he can be counted on for high leverage innings. Not having 2013-14 Cecil makes this team worse.

The real issue with this game was not the pen, it was starting Copeland again. AA has some decent options in AAA to fill Sanchez's rotation spot and he's picked the worst options (Copeland, and now Redmond apparently). That's not going to help the pen having to clean up 7 innings.

I think Redmond is just here to be the long man for these next couple of games while the pen gets some rest. I would be shocked if he made any spot starts in Sanchez's spot.

[PowerPlant1]

Went out and didn't see the game after the Jays took the lead but wasn't surprised by the result. Cecil has no command of any of his pitches at this point. I'm not sure what has happened to him, but he needs to fix it before he can be counted on for high leverage innings. Not having 2013-14 Cecil makes this team worse.

The real issue with this game was not the pen, it was starting Copeland again. AA has some decent options in AAA to fill Sanchez's rotation spot and he's picked the worst options (Copeland, and now Redmond apparently). That's not going to help the pen having to clean up 7 innings.

Well yes and no IMO since they were both issues. Starting copeland again was one issue. The bp was the other which accounted for 6 runs given up in the game.

Also, the fact that Showalter outmanaged Gibbons by unconventionally taking out Tillman quicker than Gibbons took out Copeland. Not saying that Gibbons is a bad manager, but that he got outmanaged. I do acknowledge though that Gibbons has a lot less bp options than Showalter.

Cecil has just flat out stunk this year which isn't helpful with Jansen's departure. Loup has not been great either. The Jays are really weak in the bp lefty department.

The Sanchez injury has really taken momentum away. Redmond hasn't been that bad in the past at spot starts but based on stats this year, would rather see Doubront.

[Mehar]

I always liked Sanchez as a closer. It is imperative that the Jays acquire another decent reliable starter. I am not saying you have to go out and get an elite guy like David Price (whom the Tigers acquired last year), but it is essential this team do something to upgrade the rotation. If the Jays do not want to blow up the farm system to get both a solid closer and starter, just move Sanchez to the Closer role and get another reliable starter who is proven in the AL (sooner rather than later). Sanchez working out of the Bullpen will do wonders for the Pen, and take the pressure off other guys like Cecil who should not be pitching in the 9th inning in close games as of now.

[s e n s i]

Cecil has just flat out stunk this year which isn't helpful with Jansen's departure. Loup has not been great either. The Jays are really weak in the bp lefty department.

cecil has stunk for sure but loup actually has been pretty good -- but for some reason people hang onto his bad outings but forget all the times he's pitched well. prior to the orioles series he went 6.1 IP over nine appearances without allowing a baserunner and his 2.88 xFIP ranks him 20th out of all relievers (not just lefties) in MLB. he's solid. we could use a lights out lefty though if cecil can't find his FB anytime soon.