Any chance Price takes a 2yr deal?

[blastttOFF]

if we dont resign price and replace him with someone like samardzija, we are back to the trade deadline team we once were

[The_Hater]

BUT, say the Jays win it all. Isn't it worth it for a run of at least a few years? Jays need to lock him up. I hear you though, but who cares. Baseball is so much funner when you can win.

That is an argument that fans use but players and especially their agents rarely see it the same way. At the end of the day they're still playing baseball for a living and lots of different teams have a chance to win the Series every season.

But he doesn't have kids to feed, so maybe he can live off $10 million a year if he manages his grocery coupons properly.

This is often the argument of the common man like us. But if you were making $10 million a year, and the marketsplace says you can be making $20, you're not going to tell yourself that $10 million is enough, or $15 or $18. You're going to tell yourself that you need more and you're worth more.

[Schad]

This is often the argument of the common man like us. But if you were making $10 million a year, and the marketsplace says you can be making $20, you're not going to tell yourself that $10 million is enough, or $15 or $18. You're going to tell yourself that you need more and you're worth more.

Particularly within the context of a sport with a union and publicly disclosed salaries. If Price were to sign for well below market, a lot of his fellow players would be quite rightly angry; it'd likely have knock-on effects for other free agent pitchers, and they are in the business of protecting their share of the revenue split.

[protothe]

The best hope we have is if the Jays do damage in the playoffs. That's the only way I see him taking any sort of discount, and even then, I can't see the discount being more than 2-3million/year. (eg. If his top offer comes at 7 years, 210million, he would possibly do 7 years, 195-200 million for Toronto) However, this hinges on Toronto's playoffs.

[Skin Blues]

if we dont resign price and replace him with someone like samardzija, we are back to the trade deadline team we once were

Is that a terrible thing? We'd likely be division winners even without Price, and next year we'll also have Stroman all year. And still with the best offense in baseball.

[kayliecee]

That is an argument that fans use but players and especially their agents rarely see it the same way. At the end of the day they're still playing baseball for a living and lots of different teams have a chance to win the Series every season.

But he doesn't have kids to feed, so maybe he can live off $10 million a year if he manages his grocery coupons properly.

This is often the argument of the common man like us. But if you were making $10 million a year, and the marketsplace says you can be making $20, you're not going to tell yourself that $10 million is enough, or $15 or $18. You're going to tell yourself that you need more and you're worth more.

I was kinda joking. I mean, with the money he's made, he's not really playing baseball so he can buy food. Obviously, it's so his agent can buy food.

[kayliecee]

The best hope we have is if the Jays do damage in the playoffs. That's the only way I see him taking any sort of discount, and even then, I can't see the discount being more than 2-3million/year. (eg. If his top offer comes at 7 years, 210million, he would possibly do 7 years, 195-200 million for Toronto) However, this hinges on Toronto's playoffs.

lol there is going to be no discount. If the Dodgers offer him a million more, the best we could hope for is he goes back to the Jays to improve their offer.

[The_Hater]

The best hope we have is if the Jays do damage in the playoffs. That's the only way I see him taking any sort of discount, and even then, I can't see the discount being more than 2-3million/year. (eg. If his top offer comes at 7 years, 210million, he would possibly do 7 years, 195-200 million for Toronto) However, this hinges on Toronto's playoffs.

Name the last MLB free agent who gave his team a 'discount' because of a solid playoff run? I'm not saying this player doesn't exist, I just can't think of anyone who meets the description.

Just last year James Shields and Pablo Sandoval went straight from game 7 of the WS to whichever team was willing to pay them the most $$$$. Winning mattered so much that both of them ended up playing for non playoff teams.

[protothe]

The best hope we have is if the Jays do damage in the playoffs. That's the only way I see him taking any sort of discount, and even then, I can't see the discount being more than 2-3million/year. (eg. If his top offer comes at 7 years, 210million, he would possibly do 7 years, 195-200 million for Toronto) However, this hinges on Toronto's playoffs.

lol there is going to be no discount. If the Dodgers offer him a million more, the best we could hope for is he goes back to the Jays to improve their offer.

I mentioned that a good playoff run is the only way I see a discount happening at all, not that he would do it for sure.

My point was that a good playoff run helps our chances of retaining him for less, not that it's guaranteed.

[kayliecee]

The best hope we have is if the Jays do damage in the playoffs. That's the only way I see him taking any sort of discount, and even then, I can't see the discount being more than 2-3million/year. (eg. If his top offer comes at 7 years, 210million, he would possibly do 7 years, 195-200 million for Toronto) However, this hinges on Toronto's playoffs.

lol there is going to be no discount. If the Dodgers offer him a million more, the best we could hope for is he goes back to the Jays to improve their offer.

I mentioned that a good playoff run is the only way I see a discount happening at all, not that he would do it for sure.

My point was that a good playoff run helps our chances of retaining him for less, not that it's guaranteed.

My point is that it doesn't help. His agent is not going to take a dollar less from the Blue Jays than another team offers, not after being here for just two months.

[rarefind]

if we dont resign price and replace him with someone like samardzija, we are back to the trade deadline team we once were

But the trade deadline team was a massive underachiever by pyth without their opening day starter. Price makes this team insanely better but this team isn't terrible without him.

[LegendaryXD]

The best hope we have is if the Jays do damage in the playoffs. That's the only way I see him taking any sort of discount, and even then, I can't see the discount being more than 2-3million/year. (eg. If his top offer comes at 7 years, 210million, he would possibly do 7 years, 195-200 million for Toronto) However, this hinges on Toronto's playoffs.

lol there is going to be no discount. If the Dodgers offer him a million more, the best we could hope for is he goes back to the Jays to improve their offer.

C'mon, if it was a situation where here a few million dollars of difference between the Dodgers and Blue Jays...Price would just chose where he wanted to play, not where hey would play him an extra $3 million dollars over his career.




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[kayliecee]

The best hope we have is if the Jays do damage in the playoffs. That's the only way I see him taking any sort of discount, and even then, I can't see the discount being more than 2-3million/year. (eg. If his top offer comes at 7 years, 210million, he would possibly do 7 years, 195-200 million for Toronto) However, this hinges on Toronto's playoffs.

lol there is going to be no discount. If the Dodgers offer him a million more, the best we could hope for is he goes back to the Jays to improve their offer.

C'mon, if it was a situation where here a few million dollars of difference between the Dodgers and Blue Jays...Price would just chose where he wanted to play, not where hey would play him an extra $3 million dollars over his career.




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That's not how it works. If the Dodgers offer him 300 MIllion and the Blue Jays off 297 million, his agent will go to Toronto and tell them they need 300 million and Toronto will say yes.

[LegendaryXD]

lol there is going to be no discount. If the Dodgers offer him a million more, the best we could hope for is he goes back to the Jays to improve their offer.

C'mon, if it was a situation where here a few million dollars of difference between the Dodgers and Blue Jays...Price would just chose where he wanted to play, not where hey would play him an extra $3 million dollars over his career.




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That's not how it works. If the Dodgers offer him 300 MIllion and the Blue Jays off 297 million, his agent will go to Toronto and tell them they need 300 million and Toronto will say yes.

I understand that but at the end of the day, it is ridiculous to go play for a team because they paid you an extra $3 million over another team that you wanted to play for


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[I_Like_Dirt]

But it really isn't ridiculous. At the very least, that respect side of things goes both ways. The Jays aren't exactly offering anything the Dodgers aren't. If the Jays want him as badly as the Dodgers, or more, as they should, then why on earth would they be quibbling over 1% of a contract amount?

The reality, though, is that baseball players make as much money as they do because of their collective efforts. If guys don't go out and get as much as they can, then other players will also be paid less, because they aren't as good as Price. And who says any team will be better or worse for any length of time. Sign a contract on a discount with the Red Sox or Tigers while they're contenders and why did you give that discount again? Do any fans here, after over 20 years of futility, really feel 100% that the Jays will beat the Yankees next year? Buehrle retires, Estrada retires and Hutch continues to struggle, and suddenly, even with Price, their pitching staff is vulnerable and if EE gets hurt or something, the team just doesn't have enough offense to cover for it. Really, if the Jays want Price, why would they hesitate to pay him what another team would pay him? The only real possible answer is that they don't really want him that badly, but rather, they want him to make money for themselves and they feel they will make more money without him and his contract than they would with him and his contract.

[kayliecee]

C'mon, if it was a situation where here a few million dollars of difference between the Dodgers and Blue Jays...Price would just chose where he wanted to play, not where hey would play him an extra $3 million dollars over his career.




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That's not how it works. If the Dodgers offer him 300 MIllion and the Blue Jays off 297 million, his agent will go to Toronto and tell them they need 300 million and Toronto will say yes.

I understand that but at the end of the day, it is ridiculous to go play for a team because they paid you an extra $3 million over another team that you wanted to play for


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If it were me, I wouldn't worry about $297 million or $300 million. So maybe you're right.