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Re: RE: Re: Time for Radical Realignment? 

Post#21 » by Parataxis » Fri Sep 18, 2015 3:51 am

RalphWiggum wrote:
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Toronto
Detroit
Cleveland
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh
Minnesota


Maybe my geography is off, but isn't Chicago smack in the middle of that? Much more so than Minne and Pittsburgh

Pittsburgh is marginally closer than Chicago is to Toronto. Also wanted both Chicago's in the Midwest. Minnesota geographically fits better in that midwest division but then I would've had to remove one of the Chicago teams which sorta defeats the purpose of the build rivalries thing.

I would definitely have no problem ammending my idea that winning your division assures you of a playoff spot but not necessarily a first round bye if a wildcard team has a better record. Same record goes to division winners.


Personally, I'd love to see the division as Toronto Detroit, Cleveland i and both Chicagos. Maybe Pittsburgh as the sixth?
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Re: RE: Re: Time for Radical Realignment? 

Post#22 » by RalphWiggum » Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:40 am

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Maybe my geography is off, but isn't Chicago smack in the middle of that? Much more so than Minne and Pittsburgh

Pittsburgh is marginally closer than Chicago is to Toronto. Also wanted both Chicago's in the Midwest. Minnesota geographically fits better in that midwest division but then I would've had to remove one of the Chicago teams which sorta defeats the purpose of the build rivalries thing.

I would definitely have no problem amending my idea that winning your division assures you of a playoff spot but not necessarily a first round bye if a wildcard team has a better record. Same record goes to division winners.


Personally, I'd love to see the division as Toronto Detroit, Cleveland i and both Chicagos. Maybe Pittsburgh as the sixth?

Then you've eliminated the the Chicago Cubs vs Sox battles and the hugely popular Cubs and Cardinals battles plus the new big St Louis vs KC battle? A few teams are going to have to suffer in this type of realignment but hopefully in a few years new rivals would emerge. Obviously this is all devil"s advocate stuff, I didn't make the proposals based on better just based on if the league had it's heart set on a new system. edit (It obviously doesn't eliminate both Chicago rivalries but it does many others with very little gain elsewhere). Id be very interested to see other posters opinions on a 4,5 or 6 division realignment and why they think that would be best long term. That's not blowing smoke up asses either, I'd love to see other posters ideas of new divisions as opposed to saying everything is perfect.

My biggest issue in today's game is slightly shortening the season and adding a few more playoff teams. I'm sure that could be done without radical realignment. I'm a huge proponent of a shorter season and maybe even also starting the season a week earlier by having the first week of games entirely held in domes or warm weather climates that can accommodate it. Nobody cares about season openers they care about home openers. No biggie if 15 teams have to play their first 6 games on the road every season. Shorter season, earlier season start and a couple other small changes means two weekends where MLB doesn't have to go heads up against the NFL which they always get crushed in and always will. I frankly can't believe this hasn't been a monstrous priority with the league office. Battling the NFL for 6 weeks makes a hell of a lot more sense than 8? Also make sure you never have playoff games on a Sunday unless they are late night west coast starts. This isn't rocket science MLB!
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Re: Time for Radical Realignment? 

Post#23 » by TBRunGood » Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:45 pm

I don't mind the alignment but I'm definitely not a fan of the AL/NL Dh/Pitcher difference. Sometimes it feels like the NL is AAAA for pitchers and it's a pretty significant difference. I'm all for tradition but I'm more about equality and making sure every team has an equal chance to win.
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Re: Time for Radical Realignment? 

Post#24 » by UN-Owen » Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:30 pm

I think they should realign and it should go like this:

WEST:

Seattle
San Fransisco
Oakland
Los Angeles
Anaheim
San Diego
Colorado


CENTRAL:

Minnesota
Milwaukee
Cubs
White Sox
Cincinnati
Cleveland
Detroit
TORONTO


SOUTH:

Texas
Houston
Kansas City
St. Louis
Atlanta
Tampa Bay
Florida


EAST:

Boston
Yankees
Mets
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
Baltimore
Washington



Lessening the amount of travel needed would save money and the emphasis on geographical rivalries would help generate additional revenue
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Re: Time for Radical Realignment? 

Post#25 » by JN » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:18 pm

Boogie! wrote:why do this? don't see a need for it... the only thing i think baseball should think of changing is the amount of playoff teams that make it... baseball has a lot more variables than other sports and any team can win on any given night... for example orioles have a **** record and wont make the playoffs right now... but im sure if they got in theyd have a good chance at winning a series. therefore if you added more teams to the playoff bracket you could see a lot of cinderella like upsets which makes it more exciting... look at how pumped people were for the royals last year... also makes the last few games of the season more exciting as more teams are jockeying for playoff spots. other than that, i dont see the purpose in rearranging the league.


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Re: Time for Radical Realignment? 

Post#26 » by CrookedJ » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:20 pm

Geddy wrote:When they first came out with inter-league play the idea of seeing things like NY vs NY, Cubs vs White Sox, As vs Giants, Jays vs Expos etc seemed like a lot of fun. It lost its novelty after a few years so I would be against any kind of drastic changes for the time being.

I would rather they just shorten the regular season a bit, and make the wild card a 3 game series. Kind of silly to play a 162 season and then have it come down to one game.


Agree....Interleague is a worn out novelty.

I would like to see more games vs other nearby rivals like Cleveland and Detroit and less in the Tropicana Slumber Dome, but no other changes are that interesting...
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Re: Time for Radical Realignment? 

Post#27 » by Dan2087 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:44 pm

I'd rather leave it as is and even just have interleague play for one stretch of the season instead of spread out.

Personally I like the rivalries that are created with so many in division games, and it really makes this time of the year exciting - we have had a lot of games against the Yankees which is how I want it. I want to play the teams we are directly competing against
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Re: Time for Radical Realignment? 

Post#28 » by JN » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:47 pm

Dan2087 wrote:I'd rather leave it as is and even just have interleague play for one stretch of the season instead of spread out.


Not feasable -- For interleague play to be played only over a specific stretch you need an even number of teams in both leagues. So one team would have to move.
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Re: RE: Re: Time for Radical Realignment? 

Post#29 » by Dan2087 » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:22 pm

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Dan2087 wrote:I'd rather leave it as is and even just have interleague play for one stretch of the season instead of spread out.


Not feasable -- For interleague play to be played only over a specific stretch you need an even number of teams in both leagues. So one team would have to move.

Maybe they could move Houston to the AL
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