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Tulo Opens Up About Everything 

Post#1 » by Scott Hall » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:52 am

KANSAS CITY — Troy Tulowitzki leaned back in his chair at a table inside the visitors’ clubhouse at Kauffman Stadium with four men who were complete strangers to him months ago.

There was Ryan Goins, still fuming over the strike zone in the ninth inning of the Toronto Blue Jays 4-3 loss to the Kansas City Royals that ended their season. There was Kevin Pillar, who frankly looked relieved to be through with the hardest, most demanding year of his young life, as he tipped back a Michelob Ultra and sighed. There was Mark Lowe, the clubhouse clown and constant provider of comic relief, who tried to lighten the mood and disrupt interviews by farting on demand. And there was Chris Colabello, the seven-year independent ball veteran who finally arrived in the majors in 2015 with a remarkable season, who turned 32-years-old literally as he sat at that table, and who demanded someone include Lowe’s antics in their writing (Happy Birthday, Chris).

Then there was Tulowitzki. It’s been a hard year for the 31-year-old. He was traded mid-season to a team he never thought he’d play for; he struggled offensively, falling well short of the best-hitting-shortstop-in-the-game level he’s proven himself capable of; he played through an injury throughout October, one that clearly made him uncomfortable at the plate.

Through it all, he’s kept his head down, said all the right things and tried to go about his business while attracting as little attention as possible. He hasn’t wanted to talk about the discomfort he’s been feeling, both physically and emotionally. But on this night, just an hour after his long, tiring season ended, surrounded by some of his closest friends on his new team, he let himself open up.

"You know what, and this is just being completely honest, it’s tough for me now to trust anybody in this game after what happened," Tulowitzki said. "I’m sure these guys (in the Blue Jays front office) are great here. But at the same time, with what happened, it’s really tough."

What happened was Tulowitzki was traded from the place where his career began, and where he figured it would end. He’d signed a 10-year contract with Colorado in 2010. He didn’t think he was going anywhere. But trade rumours persisted throughout his Rockies tenure as the team drastically underperformed, and Tulowtizki suddenly went from a franchise player on a possible contender to a tradable asset on a perennially losing team.

"It’s been a tough year for me, to be honest. Just with everything that went down with the trade. It threw me for a loop. It threw my family for a loop," Tulowitzki said. "I’m excited to go to spring training and get a fresh start with the team and be with these guys for a whole year and not have to worry about trade talks and all that. The last three or four years I had to worry about it and talk about it every single day in Colorado. So, I’m looking forward to having a year where I don’t have to talk about it. It’s going to be great."

Tulowitzki was blunt when he was introduced to Toronto shortly after his acquisition in late July—he hadn’t expected the trade. But he never let on just how much it affected his psyche.

He was always told that if the Rockies front office was thinking about moving him, he’d be made aware of it. He never had a sense that anything was imminent. But then, on July 28, he was removed from a game without explanation. It hurt him a lot.

"I didn’t expect it at all. It caught me off guard. I think some people when they get traded they either expect it or know they’re going somewhere. The team tells them something," Tulowitzki said. "With mine it was, ‘Hey you’re not going anywhere.’ And then I come out of the game, and I’m here in Toronto, and then we go on a run, and we make the playoffs. It was crazy."

It was a lot for Tulowitzki to process—especially the place he was traded to. He didn’t know much about Toronto and likely never would have considered it as a free agent.

"They had a shortstop. So it wasn’t even a place that you’d ever imagine going to. That was definitely a shock," Tulowitzki said. "I just didn’t know what to expect. It was a much bigger city than I originally thought. I really was excited when we started to win—how the country got behind us. That was fun, to go to a packed house every single night. But I didn’t even know they were capable of that—even if we won."

Tulowitzki admits that he never truly felt settled in Toronto over the final three months of the season; never felt comfortable or much like himself.

When he came over to the Blue Jays, everyone told him to beware of the Rogers Centre turf. But he found that wasn’t the biggest adjustment, or even much of a problem at all. The hardest thing for Tulowitzki to adapt to was being a Blue Jay after nine and a half years of being a Rockie.

"I mean, these guys are great and I’m getting to know them. But at the same time, when you don’t spend the whole year with the team, it’s hard to feel settled," Tulowitzki said. "Now that I’m here though, I figure things happen for a reason. And this team is really good and I’m excited to come back next year."

Tulowitzki finished his 2015 with a .280/.337/.440 line. He hit 17 homers and drove in 70 runs. He was worth 2.3 wins above replacement. In the aggregate, he was very good, especially for a shortstop.

But most of that production came with the Rockies, who he hit .300/.348/.471 for over 87 games. As a Blue Jay he never truly found his feet, batting .239/.317/.380 after the trade, and .205/.239/.386 in 11 games this post-season. There’s no way around it—he produced much better before July 28 than he did after.

"It was just one day and one deal, " Tulowitzki says, "That kind of changed my mind on some things."

To be fair, Tulowitzki provided some of the biggest hits of the Blue Jays’ post-season, like the three-run homer in Game 3 against the Rangers, the three-run homer in Game 3 against the Royals, and the bases-loaded double in Game 5 of the ALCS that helped the Blue Jays get as far as they did. That was all accomplished while Tulowitzki played through the lingering effects of a cracked scapula, something he admitted he was battling with throughout the playoffs.

"I was pretty honest. Some days I felt good, some days I wasn’t too good," Tulowitzki said. "It’s not like I’m going to come out and announce now that I had a torn something. It’s not like that. But these last couple days, honestly, I’ve felt a lot better than the previous week or two."

Now, Tulowitzki goes home for a rest. To thoroughly heal his shoulder; to thoroughly clear his mind; to thoroughly evaluate where his career is at and what it’s going to be like to play the next five years of his contract as a Blue Jay. It’s been a really tough year, and there’s a small part of him that’s relieved it’s over.

But there’s also a part of him excited to see how his new team grows. Tulowitzki talked at length about the experience of the post-season and high-pressure, meaningful baseball—how it can affect young players like Goins and Pillar, who sat around that clubhouse table with him as he talked.

He speaks from experience, having gone to the playoffs when he was 22 and 24 with Colorado. He remembers how much better it made him as a ballplayer. How it taught him to slow the game down.

"I think you’re instantly going to see them be better players next year, just because of games like that," Tulowitzki said. "Then you look at the talent we have, and I would think Alex [Anthopoulos] is going to be really aggressive in the off-season because he had so much success with some of the moves that he made. I think you’ll see more of that and I think our team will only get better."

After some much needed time away from baseball, Tulowitzki thinks he’s only going to get better, too.




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Post#2 » by J-Roc » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:17 pm

We'll see if Alex is still around. But good to see the comments about Goins and Pillar. We need Tulo to be a leader on the team. Probably THE leader with how many years he's signed.
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Post#3 » by Sticks » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:42 pm

Hey Tulo, it's a business! Your getting paid extremely well to play baseball

You signed the contract and you knew there were wasn't a no trade clause in your contract. Get over it, your here now.
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Post#4 » by Patman » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:45 pm

Sticks wrote:Hey Tulo, it's a business! Your getting paid extremely well to play baseball

You signed the contract and you knew there were wasn't a no trade clause in your contract. Get over it, your here now.
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Lol. I'm sure he'll get over it, but it's pretty reasonable to be upset over a trade.

What's he supposed to say to his family? "Here guys, wipe your tears with my money". Or maybe he should've told them to not make any friends in town or learn to like the city since he could get moved.

Imagine how pissed off the Toronto fan base would be if he said something like "Yeah, I don't really care to get to know Toronto or the people. I don't know how long I'll be here".

Yes, they're millionaires playing baseball. But they're still human. Personally, it's refreshing to see vulnerability from an athlete. Much better than the "holier than thou" and "IDGAF, I'm rich" types.
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Post#5 » by Schad » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:50 pm

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Sticks wrote:Yes, they're millionaires playing baseball. But they're still human. Personally, it's refreshing to see vulnerability from an athlete. Much better than the "holier than thou" and "IDGAF, I'm rich" types.


Yeah, that. I'd find it more problematic if a player spent a decade with a team, developed a close relationship with the people in the organization, and then shrugged off the end of that time as if it was nothing. People bemoan athletes as mercenaries, yet still find reason to complain when athletes aren't mercenary enough.
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Post#6 » by dagger » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:53 pm

Pillar ended up as our best two-way player. And unlike some, he had a great post-season. He even started walking a bit more, and looked to shoot the ball to the opposite field. He might well become a hitter capable of a .275 or even .280 average, maybe 15 HRs, 75 RBIs and 30 SB. And he's making entry level money for another two seasons. Not bad for a guy in the 7 or 8 slot in the order.
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Post#7 » by Ong_dynasty » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:29 am

I really like tulo..and do think after he clears his head, settles and heals..we will see a better tulo next year.

And yes, he gets paid millions..but dude has a family and been in the same team for 10 years...you "should" develop some bonds.
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Post#8 » by ldnk » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:44 am

Sticks wrote:Hey Tulo, it's a business! Your getting paid extremely well to play baseball

You signed the contract and you knew there were wasn't a no trade clause in your contract. Get over it, your here now.
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I have honestly never understood this kind of argument. While compensated extremely well, players aren't robots. They are allowed to have relationships with people outside of the sport. They have homes, families and other things that tie them to a city outside of wearing a jersey. He's allowed to be affected by a trade after spending 10 years with a team.
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Post#9 » by ldnk » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:45 am

dagger wrote:Pillar ended up as our best two-way player. And unlike some, he had a great post-season. He even started walking a bit more, and looked to shoot the ball to the opposite field. He might well become a hitter capable of a .275 or even .280 average, maybe 15 HRs, 75 RBIs and 30 SB. And he's making entry level money for another two seasons. Not bad for a guy in the 7 or 8 slot in the order.


If that ends up being his stat line I don't think he continues to hit 7th/8th. I love Colabello but it remains to be seen if he can replicate his season next year. I would imagine that we see the lineup revert back to Tulo hitting 5th next year if his offense gets going and Pillar might hit 6th.
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Post#10 » by Lateral Quicks » Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:26 pm

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dagger wrote:Pillar ended up as our best two-way player. And unlike some, he had a great post-season. He even started walking a bit more, and looked to shoot the ball to the opposite field. He might well become a hitter capable of a .275 or even .280 average, maybe 15 HRs, 75 RBIs and 30 SB. And he's making entry level money for another two seasons. Not bad for a guy in the 7 or 8 slot in the order.


If that ends up being his stat line I don't think he continues to hit 7th/8th. I love Colabello but it remains to be seen if he can replicate his season next year. I would imagine that we see the lineup revert back to Tulo hitting 5th next year if his offense gets going and Pillar might hit 6th.


Donaldson was by far our best two-way player, and assuming everyone is healthy next year, it's hard to see Pillar batting anywhere higher than 8th. And until he proves more disciplined at the plate, he really doesn't deserve to be higher. And I say that as a long time Pillar supporter.
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Post#11 » by J-Roc » Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:51 pm

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Sticks wrote:Hey Tulo, it's a business! Your getting paid extremely well to play baseball

You signed the contract and you knew there were wasn't a no trade clause in your contract. Get over it, your here now.
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I have honestly never understood this kind of argument. While compensated extremely well, players aren't robots. They are allowed to have relationships with people outside of the sport. They have homes, families and other things that tie them to a city outside of wearing a jersey. He's allowed to be affected by a trade after spending 10 years with a team.


Actually, we do hear of them described as "robots" all the time. Osuna gives up a dinger, and we hear that he already forgot about it by the next batter. And we hear it enough that we're lead to believe this is what defines a top competitive athlete.
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Post#12 » by Patman » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:00 am

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dagger wrote:Pillar ended up as our best two-way player. And unlike some, he had a great post-season. He even started walking a bit more, and looked to shoot the ball to the opposite field. He might well become a hitter capable of a .275 or even .280 average, maybe 15 HRs, 75 RBIs and 30 SB. And he's making entry level money for another two seasons. Not bad for a guy in the 7 or 8 slot in the order.


If that ends up being his stat line I don't think he continues to hit 7th/8th. I love Colabello but it remains to be seen if he can replicate his season next year. I would imagine that we see the lineup revert back to Tulo hitting 5th next year if his offense gets going and Pillar might hit 6th.


I love Pillar, and he was money in the playoffs, but Cola has had longer stretches of production. So I don't know why you would think his bat would be less reliable than Pillar's.
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Post#13 » by Parataxis » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:00 pm

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dagger wrote:Pillar ended up as our best two-way player. And unlike some, he had a great post-season. He even started walking a bit more, and looked to shoot the ball to the opposite field. He might well become a hitter capable of a .275 or even .280 average, maybe 15 HRs, 75 RBIs and 30 SB. And he's making entry level money for another two seasons. Not bad for a guy in the 7 or 8 slot in the order.


If that ends up being his stat line I don't think he continues to hit 7th/8th. I love Colabello but it remains to be seen if he can replicate his season next year. I would imagine that we see the lineup revert back to Tulo hitting 5th next year if his offense gets going and Pillar might hit 6th.


With Martin at 7th and Travis, implausibly at 8th?

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dagger wrote:Pillar ended up as our best two-way player. And unlike some, he had a great post-season. He even started walking a bit more, and looked to shoot the ball to the opposite field. He might well become a hitter capable of a .275 or even .280 average, maybe 15 HRs, 75 RBIs and 30 SB. And he's making entry level money for another two seasons. Not bad for a guy in the 7 or 8 slot in the order.


If that ends up being his stat line I don't think he continues to hit 7th/8th. I love Colabello but it remains to be seen if he can replicate his season next year. I would imagine that we see the lineup revert back to Tulo hitting 5th next year if his offense gets going and Pillar might hit 6th.


With Martin at 7th and Travis, implausibly at 8th?

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Post#15 » by AirCanadaMouse » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:10 pm

nothing new... but I don't think he's going to enjoy his tenure here when the team isn't a contender anymore. He still seems grumpy about everything.
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Post#16 » by IMAN5 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:09 pm

I'm excited for next season because Tulo will settle in, become more comfortable, and be able to influence the younger guys as well as bond with the core of the team. He is part of this core, and spending more time together he'll realize that and enjoy his time here which will result to better play.
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Post#17 » by Parataxis » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:07 am

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If that ends up being his stat line I don't think he continues to hit 7th/8th. I love Colabello but it remains to be seen if he can replicate his season next year. I would imagine that we see the lineup revert back to Tulo hitting 5th next year if his offense gets going and Pillar might hit 6th.


With Martin at 7th and Travis, implausibly at 8th?

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Travis should be leading off.


Which makes things equally crazy, having a 300 hitter (Revere) batting 8th or 9th. This is wonderful =)

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