Boycott Blue jays movement?

[fmradioguy]

AA will be back in the future and be will be the president. It's just not right now.

The way that AA just embarrassed Ed Rogers, I wouldn't be so sure about that.

It's business. If Rogers can enter partnership with it's hated rival, Bell, they'd gladly welcome AA back if it makes business sense. I can easily see AA back in the fold some day, especially if the Shapiro era turns out to be a disaster. Of course, if a future Montreal team comes calling instead, that opportunity may never present itself.

[OAKLEY_2]

AA will be back in the future and be will be the president. It's just not right now.

The way that AA just embarrassed Ed Rogers, I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Didn't Rogers slightly embarass themselves by trying to railroad Beeston last year? While Rogers might be a better owner than Interbrew their track record at being competitive is no better than that of their other side deal - MLSE. However if they go forward with Lacava and Gibbons they will gave gotten things almost half right coming out of some extremely bad timing for organizational upheaval.

[The_Hater]

It's pretty clear that AA was pushed out. However, would starting a boycott movement help and catch Rogers attention? The Rogers CEO Guy Laurence is a man who's huge on branding and perception. If he feels the negative feedback towards the Blue jays will start affecting the entire Rogers and its product and the bottom line, do you think he'll consider it?

It's pretty clear a lot of baseball people know that AA is a better baseball person than Sharpiro. He's not irrepaceable but clearly better than Sharpiro.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2015/10/29/blue-jays-ownership-responsible-for-this-ridiculous-ending-arthur.html

"And that’s where it broke. In a face-to-face meeting with the senior members of the Jays’ front office, Shapiro said he strongly disagreed with some of the deadline choices that sent prospects out. The initial contract offer to Anthopoulos, according to an official who was briefed on the talks, was a two-year deal, with the second year an option.
It was an insult. By the time Rogers tried to give Anthopoulos a five-year contract, it was already too late."

None of the things you claim are 'clear' are clear to anyone but yourself.

3 months ago absolutely nobody in MLB would have called AA a better baseball man than Shapiro. Now, because of his first pennant race in 6 seasons he's being treated like some sort of baseball genius. He seems solid but it's far to early to assume he's an elite GM as he looked extremely average for a long time. And if AA can't take opinions that aren't inline with his own without running away then he's not going to be a very good long term GM anyways.

And what exactly are we boycotting here? what a ridiculous suggestion.

[The_Hater]

AA will be back in the future and be will be the president. It's just not right now.

I think that's a huge long shot. Yes we've rehired 2 previously fired GM's but people that leave companies rarely return.

It's time to move on and it's time people stop grossly overrating AA. He's a good baseball man but certainly not the genius he's being treated like right now.

[azorian]

AA will be back in the future and be will be the president. It's just not right now.

I think that's a huge long shot. Yes we've rehired 2 previously fired GM's but people that leave companies rarely return.

It's time to move on and it's time people stop grossly overrating AA. He's a good baseball man but certainly not the genius he's being treated like right now.

I 100% agree with you. He's a GM that made some good moves and some bad moves. I absolutely loved the pennant race and I'll remember the playoffs but I've been a fan far longer than the AA era and this really isn't as big of a deal as everyone is making it out to be.

Now if bautista and others come out and start demanding trades I'll start worrying.

[Sifu]

AA will be back in the future and be will be the president. It's just not right now.

The way that AA just embarrassed Ed Rogers, I wouldn't be so sure about that.

How did AA embarrass Rogers?

If anything AA was the epitomy of professionalism in all his interviews and conferences. It was widely noted by journalists almost universally that AA was complimentary to Rogers and Shapiro. He could have thrown people under the bus, but did not. It was so much praise by AA on Rogers that many said he is interviewing for his next job.

Rogers was the one to disclose contract details and so on, and were the party to act like reactionary buffoons

Not sure how that was AA fault.

[Randle McMurphy]

AA will be back in the future and be will be the president. It's just not right now.

The way that AA just embarrassed Ed Rogers, I wouldn't be so sure about that.

How did AA embarrass Rogers?

By leaving and creating a massive PR disaster for Ed Rogers to deal with, a disaster that can largely be attributable to the actions of Ed Rogers. Do you think Ed likes getting blamed for the most popular GM since Gillick bolting the franchise? AA's decision to leave caused such an uproar that Ed actually had to give an interview for the first time in his professional life about the Jays to spin the situation.

Not sure how that was AA fault.

I didn't say it was. But it didn't have to be for Ed to feel like AA embarrassed him.

It's time to turn the page on the AA era because it's pretty unlikely that he'll ever be back here now as long as Ed Rogers is running the show.

[JaysRule15]

Only way AA is ever running a Canadian baseball team again is if Montreal gets another MLB team in the future. There's no way AA returns to the Jays in any capacity (at least in the next 10 years). He burned his bridges with not only the current management of the team, but also with Ed Rogers. Trust me, Ed Rogers doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would appreciate his name being dragged in the mud in the public eye and the media because of AA's decision to leave. No way Ed Rogers forgets this. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he even bans Shapiro from dealing with any other team that AA joins in the future lol.

[Sifu]

The way that AA just embarrassed Ed Rogers, I wouldn't be so sure about that.

How did AA embarrass Rogers?

By leaving and creating a massive PR disaster for Ed Rogers to deal with, a disaster that can largely be attributable to the actions of Ed Rogers. Do you think Ed likes getting blamed for the most popular GM since Gillick bolting the franchise? AA's decision to leave caused such an uproar that Ed actually had to give an interview for the first time in his professional life about the Jays to spin the situation.

Not sure how that was AA fault.

I didn't say it was. But it didn't have to be for Ed to feel like AA embarrassed him.

It's time to turn the page on the AA era because it's pretty unlikely that he'll ever be back here now as long as Ed Rogers is running the show.

I think it would have been more accurate to say Rogers was embarrassed by AAs departure rather than saying AA embarrassed Rogers.

[Randle McMurphy]

How did AA embarrass Rogers?

By leaving and creating a massive PR disaster for Ed Rogers to deal with, a disaster that can largely be attributable to the actions of Ed Rogers. Do you think Ed likes getting blamed for the most popular GM since Gillick bolting the franchise? AA's decision to leave caused such an uproar that Ed actually had to give an interview for the first time in his professional life about the Jays to spin the situation.

Not sure how that was AA fault.

I didn't say it was. But it didn't have to be for Ed to feel like AA embarrassed him.

It's time to turn the page on the AA era because it's pretty unlikely that he'll ever be back here now as long as Ed Rogers is running the show.

I think it would have been more accurate to say Rogers was embarrassed by AAs departure rather than saying AA embarrassed Rogers.

I can guarantee you that's not how Ed Rogers views it and that's what matters.

[Parataxis]

Trust me, Ed Rogers doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would appreciate his name being dragged in the mud in the public eye and the media because of AA's decision to leave. No way Ed Rogers forgets this. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he even bans Shapiro from dealing with any other team that AA joins in the future lol.

That would likely be a great way to get Shapiro to walk as well.

[Sifu]

I can guarantee you that's not how Ed Rogers views it and that's what matters.

Then better to say that Rogers perceived the embarrassment from AA, and not AA embarrassed Rogers.

Honestly, AA did nothing wrong and he was very professional in how he dealt with the media and handled this whole situation.

For being a media mogul, Rogers is pretty bad at this stuff.

People leave all the time when their bosses do. It happens at work and in baseball.

This whole embarrass thing is more a reflection on Rogers classness than anything else.

[Dennis 37]

Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.

That deserves a plus 1 alone.lol

George Bush's version allowed the segue into my favorite Who song.

[HeatedEnd]

The're not saints but let's not get overboard with the Rogers hate. Rogers **** up when they butchered the Beeston situation. When they decided to look for baseball president then was probably when AA decided it may be time to leave. Seems to me, AA wanted to be President of Baseball Ops. We do not have enough facts to blame Shaprio or Rogers. The fact that they offered him a 5 year contact with a 1st year option to AA means they tried everything they could do but was fighting uphill.

If you want to 'boycott' yourself, go for it. It sucks that AA is no longer with the team but it's business and it's time to move on.