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Re: Jays negotiating multi-year deal with Estrada 

Post#81 » by Relentless88 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:44 am

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RaptorsFTL wrote:2 years 26 is completely fine with me. You aren't stuck with him, and at worst have a back end rotation guy.

Now who else do they get is the question. We need 1-2 SP still IMO, and we are missing a #1. I don't think we get Price or Greinke, so where do we go?

Schad and Randall, any idea where we may go?

I think they'll attempt to sign another starter. There should be enough money left still to get one of the upper mid-level guys (Chen, Iwakuma, Leake, Gallardo, Kazmir etc.). It will likely require paying a premium to get someone like that to come to Toronto, though, so we'd have to be prepared to overpay a bit. It remains to be seen if Shapiro will be willing to do something like that.

I find it more likely that they would go with Osuna/Sanchez in the rotation before trading from its offensive strength for a starter (and creating another hole in the process).


Can you please rank the pitchers you listed (Chen, Iwakuma, Leake, Gallardo, Kazmir)?
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Re: Jays negotiating multi-year deal with Estrada 

Post#82 » by Wo1verine » Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:48 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
RaptorsFTL wrote:2 years 26 is completely fine with me. You aren't stuck with him, and at worst have a back end rotation guy.

Now who else do they get is the question. We need 1-2 SP still IMO, and we are missing a #1. I don't think we get Price or Greinke, so where do we go?

Schad and Randall, any idea where we may go?

I think they'll attempt to sign another starter. There should be enough money left still to get one of the upper mid-level guys (Chen, Iwakuma, Leake, Gallardo, Kazmir etc.). It will likely require paying a premium to get someone like that to come to Toronto, though, so we'd have to be prepared to overpay a bit. It remains to be seen if Shapiro will be willing to do something like that.

I find it more likely that they would go with Osuna/Sanchez in the rotation before trading from its offensive strength for a starter (and creating another hole in the process).

Doesn't sound like anyone will be out bidding the Yankees for Chen, and Iwakuma sounds like he's headed back to Seattle.
So that leaves the other 3 you listed who could be had, but a little underwhelming coming off Price/Stroman 1-2 combo.
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Re: Jays negotiating multi-year deal with Estrada 

Post#83 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:45 am

Wo1verine wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
RaptorsFTL wrote:2 years 26 is completely fine with me. You aren't stuck with him, and at worst have a back end rotation guy.

Now who else do they get is the question. We need 1-2 SP still IMO, and we are missing a #1. I don't think we get Price or Greinke, so where do we go?

Schad and Randall, any idea where we may go?

I think they'll attempt to sign another starter. There should be enough money left still to get one of the upper mid-level guys (Chen, Iwakuma, Leake, Gallardo, Kazmir etc.). It will likely require paying a premium to get someone like that to come to Toronto, though, so we'd have to be prepared to overpay a bit. It remains to be seen if Shapiro will be willing to do something like that.

I find it more likely that they would go with Osuna/Sanchez in the rotation before trading from its offensive strength for a starter (and creating another hole in the process).

Doesn't sound like anyone will be out bidding the Yankees for Chen, and Iwakuma sounds like he's headed back to Seattle.
So that leaves the other 3 you listed who could be had, but a little underwhelming coming off Price/Stroman 1-2 combo.

Oh, they'd be lucky to get any one of them. And anything is going to be a "little underwhelming" compared to a top 5 pitcher in baseball.
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Re: Jays negotiating multi-year deal with Estrada 

Post#84 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:48 am

Relentless88 wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
RaptorsFTL wrote:2 years 26 is completely fine with me. You aren't stuck with him, and at worst have a back end rotation guy.

Now who else do they get is the question. We need 1-2 SP still IMO, and we are missing a #1. I don't think we get Price or Greinke, so where do we go?

Schad and Randall, any idea where we may go?

I think they'll attempt to sign another starter. There should be enough money left still to get one of the upper mid-level guys (Chen, Iwakuma, Leake, Gallardo, Kazmir etc.). It will likely require paying a premium to get someone like that to come to Toronto, though, so we'd have to be prepared to overpay a bit. It remains to be seen if Shapiro will be willing to do something like that.

I find it more likely that they would go with Osuna/Sanchez in the rotation before trading from its offensive strength for a starter (and creating another hole in the process).


Can you please rank the pitchers you listed (Chen, Iwakuma, Leake, Gallardo, Kazmir)?

Chen, Iwakuma, Kazmir, Leake, Gallardo. Those aren't the only options, though.
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Re: Jays negotiating multi-year deal with Estrada 

Post#85 » by joseph227 » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:03 am

Kuma is a big step above Chen/kazmir/Leake IMO. And no to Gallardo please, guy plays with fire every start and will be hard pressed to go more than 5 innings a start.

Lackey would be good option. He's still good but old so you can get him on a short term contract.
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Re: Jays negotiating multi-year deal with Estrada 

Post#86 » by C Court » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:36 am

Fair contract. I am surprised Estrada accepted only two years.
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Re: Jays negotiating multi-year deal with Estrada 

Post#87 » by polo007 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:37 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Sportsnet/status/666670881259855873[/tweet]

You can watch a replay of the Marco Estrada news conference at the following link:

http://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=752102

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