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Top 5 catchers in Jays' history

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Re: Top 5 catchers in Jays' history 

Post#21 » by Duffman100 » Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:51 pm

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That might also be because Josh Thole is a piece of ****.
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Post#22 » by Skin Blues » Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:48 pm

Could also be that Thole has been almost exclusively paired up with one of our worst starting pitchers over 2015/16. I'm sure if he was Estrada's personal catcher the W/L record would be a different story.
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Re: Top 5 catchers in Jays' history 

Post#23 » by chargerxthirty » Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:18 pm

Borders
Martin
Fletcher
Zaun
Santiago (even though it was short)


shout out to Charlie O'Brien for the goalie mask tho.
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Post#24 » by suntzuballin » Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:09 am

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Re: Top 5 catchers in Jays' history 

Post#25 » by The_Hater » Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:24 am

chargerxthirty wrote:Borders
Martin
Fletcher
Zaun
Santiago (even though it was short)


shout out to Charlie O'Brien for the goalie mask tho.


Borders wasn't very good. Below average really both at the plate and defensively. He just had great timing playing on 2 championship teams and winning a WS MVP on one of them.
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Re: Top 5 catchers in Jays' history 

Post#26 » by chargerxthirty » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:21 pm

Many catchers weren't great .... including borders. I should probably have Ernie on my list, but the fact remains... Pat Borders has 2 rings... and a world series MVP where he hit .450 ....

that qualifies as a top 5 catcher in team history for a team who only has a history dating back to 77. I would argue that it would be the most prevalent name listed among respondents to this question.

I do submit he wasn't very good though. ..

Tabby wasn't a great player either, but you could argue he was the most clutch hitter of all time. 43 for 88 with the bases loaded. that's ridiculous
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Re: Top 5 catchers in Jays' history 

Post#27 » by CPT » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:57 am

Decided to look up the stats on the 4 being mentioned most often (the 5th obviously being Josh Thole). From Baseball Reference, FYI.

Zaun, 5 years, 10.7 WAR (2.14/YR)
Whitt, 12 years, 19.3 WAR (1.61/YR)
Borders, 7 years, 4.5 WAR (0.64/YR)
Martin, 2 years*, 4.7 WAR (2.35/YR)

Not saying that's the order or anything, was just curious for myself and thought I might as well share what I found.

I knew Borders was kind of overrated, but I was surprised to see he was that bad. Can't take away that WS MVP though, and that puts him in the top 5 for sure.

On the other hand, I had definitely underrated Zaun.
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Re: Top 5 catchers in Jays' history 

Post#28 » by Jays4WS » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:50 am

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