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ST: Oakland Athletics (44-54) @ Toronto Blue Jays (44-54): Tank on Tank Battle July 24-28

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Re: ST: Oakland Athletics (44-54) @ Toronto Blue Jays (44-54): Tank on Tank Battle July 24-28 

Post#101 » by Skin Blues » Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:51 pm

The_Hater wrote:I only watched Jays in 30 this morning but I didn't see nearly as many balls/strikes to complain about as it sounded like. Stroman didn't get maybe 2 strikes on the edges, one was a high, backdrop curveball which was fairly easy to miss, and he complained about a couple of others that clearly missed including the one he and RM were tossed on. The the 3 runs in the first didn't look like the result of anything the home ump did. Now perhaps there were several others that weren't shown on 30.

Looking at the Brooke baseball zone maps, I can see about 19 called balls that were entirely within the normal effective strike zone (9 for Toronto, 10 for Oakland), and three called strikes on pitches entirely outside of the strike zone (2 for Toronto, 1 for Oakland). I don't know if that's normal or not. There were a couple really brutal ones, but honestly it looks like Oakland had it worse than we did. From personal experience, it can be just as frustrating to have an hugely unpredictable zone for both teams as it is when you have one or two bad calls against only your team. Inexperienced umpires trying to balance things out with makeup calls tends to make the situation much worse.
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Re: ST: Oakland Athletics (44-54) @ Toronto Blue Jays (44-54): Tank on Tank Battle July 24-28 

Post#102 » by The_Hater » Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:25 pm

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The_Hater wrote:I only watched Jays in 30 this morning but I didn't see nearly as many balls/strikes to complain about as it sounded like. Stroman didn't get maybe 2 strikes on the edges, one was a high, backdrop curveball which was fairly easy to miss, and he complained about a couple of others that clearly missed including the one he and RM were tossed on. The the 3 runs in the first didn't look like the result of anything the home ump did. Now perhaps there were several others that weren't shown on 30.

Looking at the Brooke baseball zone maps, I can see about 19 called balls that were entirely within the normal effective strike zone (9 for Toronto, 10 for Oakland), and three called strikes on pitches entirely outside of the strike zone (2 for Toronto, 1 for Oakland). I don't know if that's normal or not. There were a couple really brutal ones, but honestly it looks like Oakland had it worse than we did. From personal experience, it can be just as frustrating to have an hugely unpredictable zone for both teams as it is when you have one or two bad calls against only your team. Inexperienced umpires trying to balance things out with makeup calls tends to make the situation much worse.


Sounds like a smaller than normal strike zone that was applied equally to both teams
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Re: ST: Oakland Athletics (44-54) @ Toronto Blue Jays (44-54): Tank on Tank Battle July 24-28 

Post#103 » by polo007 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:11 pm

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Re: ST: Oakland Athletics (44-54) @ Toronto Blue Jays (44-54): Tank on Tank Battle July 24-28 

Post#104 » by JaysRule15 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:46 pm

Someone make the next ST. I don't want any more fake wins lol.
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