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Post#21 » by Skin Blues » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:07 am

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Schad wrote:Teoscar's weird, man. He always had some pop, but beyond half a season in A+ Lancaster (which is such a notorious hitting environment that you'll rarely read a scouting report of a prospect there that doesn't include their home/road splits) he never showed anything approaching the 70-grade power he suddenly sprouted post-trade. He has an isolated power above .350 as a Jay, and his numbers in 2017-2018 extrapolate to over 50 HRs in a full season.

Dunno where that has come from, or to what degree we can expect it to stick around.


If opposing pitchers don't throw him a heavy diet of breaking balls, it's a case of advance scouting incompetence. He shouldn't see a fastball on the inner half, ever. Let's see how he does when the rest of the league figures this out.

People say that about every slugger that strikes out a lot. It's not as easy as it sounds. First, it's hard to throw that junk where you want it. And second, if they know it's coming they just won't swing and it'll be a ball 2/3 of the time. Even the most free swinging sluggers still see fastballs half the time.
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Post#22 » by Randle McMurphy » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:58 am

Well if he keeps hitting HRs every 3 games, yeah, he can survive in the majors with a 30 K%.
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Post#23 » by vaff87 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:25 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:Well if he keeps hitting HRs every 3 games, yeah, he can survive in the majors with a 30 K%.


And so far, his K rate is a fair bit below that. Hopefully the change in stance has helped with it.
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Re: Teoscar hernandez 

Post#24 » by emptytheclip » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:22 pm

Dude’s not a complete liability defensively either and has some speed.
The outfield suddenly got so deep there isn't enough playing time.
I’m still happy we got Grichuk and Granderson. But I feel like they need to make a trade or two at the deadline to balance the roster.
Their only lefty bullpen option is Loup, we say this pretty much every year like groundhog day.
And the rotation thus far has not performed.
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Post#25 » by North_of_Border » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:13 am

The two Liriano trades really paid off and almost cost quite literally nothing. Not to mention he did decent himself in his short stint in Toronto.

Reese McGuire and Hernandez could be long term options
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Post#26 » by flatjacket1 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:07 pm

dagger wrote:If opposing pitchers don't throw him a heavy diet of breaking balls, it's a case of advance scouting incompetence. He shouldn't see a fastball on the inner half, ever. Let's see how he does when the rest of the league figures this out.


Pitching isn't that simple. If you don't throw fastballs inside (not even the "back him up" stuff, strikes work) guys just dig in and look to time up junk on the outer third. A great example of this was Osuna last night. Guys just dug in and took some mighty hacks as the slurves/CH away.

Hitting breaking pitches when you know they are coming is much easier than people think. Especially when LHP/RHB, it falls onto your bat path. That's why when guys are hitting with 2 strikes they look to push a fastball the other way, sometimes will get a slider inner third and absolutely demolish it. "Speeding up the bat" as Pat says. Pitching without your fastball to any hitter is a dangerous game. No such thing as a curveball or slider inside the zone which is unhittable.
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Post#27 » by TorontoJock » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:47 am

What an at-bat today to end the game by Teoscar. Sure, it ended in an infield flyout but that's only because Kimbrel threw an incredible fastball right in on Teoscar's hands. That being said, Teoscar was on everything. Only swinging at strikes and taking close balls including a tough curveball that broke out of the zone. Watching the at-bat, I just got the feeling that if Kimbrel messed up at any point, Teoscar was gonna give it a ride. It was an amazing at bat that just didn't end well. But man, is Teoscar looking good.
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Post#28 » by I_Like_Dirt » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:41 pm

He's awesome. Could this be the universe paying the Jays back in a reverse David Cone for Jeff Kent kind of way?
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