Gibbons done at the end of the season or week?

[GameChannel]

Gibbons is not even a problem - this is just a move for the sake of making a move

The roster is terrible - no one can do anything with a lineup full of turds

[Schad]

Gibbons is not even a problem - this is just a move for the sake of making a move

The roster is terrible - no one can do anything with a lineup full of turds

No disagreement. However, I'm fine with them moving on; Gibbons will find another job, and Shapiro will get to choose His Guy, whoever that might be (and if it's Dusty Baker, Mike Matheny or John Farrell, I will then choose a derogatory nickname).

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Gibbons is not even a problem - this is just a move for the sake of making a move

The roster is terrible - no one can do anything with a lineup full of turds

He's not the problem with this roster, but I would prefer a younger vibe for the rebuild, which is going to feature a lot more athleticism. I mean, the Jays might even do things like bunt. A younger guy like Kevin Cash who has less talent to work with than most teams but has the Rays at .500

[sule]

Atkins has said Gibbons remains in the Blue Jays plans moving ahead. For this season at least. I for one would like to see a change. Like Lateral said, no point in firing him now unless he's not interested in managing the team anymore. Not easy being a manager in the majors that's for sure.

Maybe they plan on assigning him to another role after this season.

Head of Sunflower Seed Division.

[Tanner]

Gibbons is not even a problem - this is just a move for the sake of making a move

The roster is terrible - no one can do anything with a lineup full of turds

The Yankees and Red Sox both hired new managers after both teams made the playoffs last year. Girardi’s teams in particular overachieved every year and Cashman still made the switch. If Shapiro wants to hire his own guy then who cares about the roster?

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It looks like Gibbons has decided to manage his own departure, rather than make it look like he's being fired. This would be an honourable way to end the relationship (and yes, he gets paid for another season as things stand).

https://www.thescore.com/news/1582678

Friday, manager John Gibbons appeared on MLB Network Radio where he addressed a report from The Athletic's Ken Rosenthal claiming the Blue Jays "seem destined to move on" from him by season's end.

"Sooner or later, it's going to happen. I guarantee you that, " Gibbons replied when asked about this being his last season. "I learn to dismiss those things. It's a reality though. They inherited me here."

Gibbons is in his second stint as manager of the Blue Jays, spending 11 total seasons as Toronto's skipper. During his two runs with the organization, he's helped lead them to a division title and consecutive postseason appearances in 2015 and '16.

"If my days are finished here, it's been a wonderful ride ... maybe they would benefit from getting a new fresh face that can grow with the young players," he added.

The Blue Jays, who came into the season with their sights set on the postseason, have struggled to a 52-62 record. They've since traded J.A. Happ, Roberto Osuna, John Axford, Aaron Loup, Seunghwan Oh, and Steve Pearce and appear to be moving in the direction of a rebuild, something Gibbons doesn't appear to be interested in sticking around for.

"I'm not so sure I want to go through one of those things. A total rebuild," he explained. "We'll probably sit down ... before it's all said and done and talk that out."

Earlier this week, Blue Jays general manager Ross Atkins refuted the report that Gibbons' job security was in question, going on to say the 56-year-old remains part of the team's plans moving ahead.

[phillipmike]

An employee doesn't want to be apart of his bosses' vision/plan for the team, well I guess it's the employees job to convince his bosses' otherwise or he (Gibby) will be at fault!!!

[phillipmike]

On a serious note if he doesn't want to be part of a rebuild then so be it. I really like Gibby but its best to part ways and find your manager who will be here for the next 3-5+ years.

[North_of_Border]

Probably not a great career move by a soon to be Free Agent Manager, when he says he does not want to do a rebuild.

When he goes into the market for a new job, his options will be limited to developed teams. Teams will not want him if they are young and upcoming.

He might be just trying to walk away with his head held up. But not great for future prospects

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[phillipmike]

Unless he has a job lined up it looks bad on him.

The new FO could have went with their guy in 2016 but kept him and rightfully so. They showed him some faith and trust that he could handle taking the team back to the playoffs and he isn't showing the front office trust that they believe in their abilities to rebuild the franchise quickly, efficiently and effectively.

[johanliebert]

Probably not a great career move by a soon to be Free Agent Manager, when he says he does not want to do a rebuild.

When he goes into the market for a new job, his options will be limited to developed teams. Teams will not want him if they are young and upcoming.

He might be just trying to walk away with his head held up. But not great for future prospects

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how many managers at this age would want to sign with a rebuilding team?

bob mcowan has also stated shaprio may be on the way out himself.

[johanliebert]

An employee doesn't want to be apart of his bosses' vision/plan for the team, well I guess it's the employees job to convince his bosses' otherwise or he (Gibby) will be at fault!!!

apparently shapiro who is also an employee has problems with his boss.

[Tanner]

While working for Rogers is probably miserable as a baseball guy who knows about win curves and competitive windows, I don’t think Shapiro has anything to worry about unless he himself wants to leave. He’s exactly the type of suit and tie corporate guy that a publicly traded company would want, and his resume is extensive. Plus I believe Ed Rogers was a big part of bringing him in (thank god it was him and not Duquette or Williams). McCown is wrong about everything and I think you can put that speculation into the same box.

[BigLeagueChew]

He'll end up in Atlanta soon enough, my guess. AA and George Poulis are already there.

[Lateral Quicks]

McCown is wrong about everything and I think you can put that speculation into the same box.

Every time I come across a McCown speculation, usually the opposite is true.

[Natural11]

I expect there will be a transition in the off-season. Gibbons did a good job, but he's better suited to manage a team of veterans than a team of kids. Firing him before the end of the season would be pointless. It's in no way his fault that the team has performed the way it has. You could argue whether another manager could have scrapped another few wins together with a move here or there, but no manager could turn this cast of characters into a contender in present form.