Minnesota Twins (64-83) at Toronto Blue Jays (82-64) - September 17-19

[vaff87]

I'm still scared of the Rays, especially in Tropicana.

If it's any consolation, apparently Kevin Cash is scared of Charlie Montoyo.

As a Jays fan, I am also scared of Charlie Montoyo.

[Natural11]

I'm still scared of the Rays, especially in Tropicana.

If it's any consolation, apparently Kevin Cash is scared of Charlie Montoyo.

As a Jays fan, I am also scared of Charlie Montoyo.

Part of me wonders if the WC comes down to the last game or two, will the old Charlie come back and Charlie away a win like he has done several times this year. We haven't seen the last of Charlie "I bunt with two strikes" "I thought he had a chance to hit a homerun" Montoyo.

[Hottie McShotty]

Watch Montoyo and the Jays make the playoffs and win the world series.

[polo007]

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[HangTime]

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How long is Pete Walker under contract for?

[The_Hater]

Watch Montoyo and the Jays make the playoffs and win the world series.

This could happen, but it wouldn’t change the clear case Montoya has forged as an incompetent manager. It would just prove that we have a boatload of talent.

[Hottie McShotty]

Watch Montoyo and the Jays make the playoffs and win the world series.

This could happen, but it wouldn’t change the clear case Montoya has forged as an incompetent manager. It would just prove that we have a boatload of talent.

What are going to do with this boatload of talent? We can't afford to keep everyone.

[The_Hater]

Watch Montoyo and the Jays make the playoffs and win the world series.

This could happen, but it wouldn’t change the clear case Montoya has forged as an incompetent manager. It would just prove that we have a boatload of talent.

What are going to do with this boatload of talent? We can't afford to keep everyone.

Same problem every good team has. Luckily we still have some good prospects coming up through the pipeline to help keep payroll down.

[pilkoids]

Watch Montoyo and the Jays make the playoffs and win the world series.

If this happens, it will be in spite of Montoyo, not because of him.

[Schad]

What are going to do with this boatload of talent? We can't afford to keep everyone.

Even with a couple of the kids hitting arb, we could comfortably retain all of our talent for the next couple seasons.

It will become something of an issue from about 2024 on, and that will have some bearing on whether we want to retain some talent at this time. Retaining Ray, Semien and Berrios is feasible, but giving them long-term deals would also create a payroll bomb as we approach Vlad/Bo's free agency after 2025 that would make it extremely difficult to keep them.

[The_Hater]

What are going to do with this boatload of talent? We can't afford to keep everyone.

Even with a couple of the kids hitting arb, we could comfortably retain all of our talent for the next couple seasons.

It will become something of an issue from about 2024 on, and that will have some bearing on whether we want to retain some talent at this time. Retaining Ray, Semien and Berrios is feasible, but giving them long-term deals would also create a payroll bomb as we approach Vlad/Bo's free agency after 2025 that would make it extremely difficult to keep them.

Nobody ever mentions Matz. What do you think his free agent number looks like?

[SharoneWright]

What are going to do with this boatload of talent? We can't afford to keep everyone.

Even with a couple of the kids hitting arb, we could comfortably retain all of our talent for the next couple seasons.

It will become something of an issue from about 2024 on, and that will have some bearing on whether we want to retain some talent at this time. Retaining Ray, Semien and Berrios is feasible, but giving them long-term deals would also create a payroll bomb as we approach Vlad/Bo's free agency after 2025 that would make it extremely difficult to keep them.

Yep. Sooo,,, how about early extensions for Bo and Vlad? IMO you lock down who you MUST retain first - and get a slight discount on AAV for paying the pre-arb and arb years. Then you see what's left in your budget for supplementary players/veterans.

[Schad]

Nobody ever mentions Matz. What do you think his free agent number looks like?

Guessing something like 2/$18m?

[LLJ]

Watch Montoyo and the Jays make the playoffs and win the world series.

If this happens, it will be in spite of Montoyo, not because of him.

It would be like when the Red Sox won with John Farrell

[Fairview4Life]

Watch Montoyo and the Jays make the playoffs and win the world series. :lol:

If this happens, it will be in spite of Montoyo, not because of him.

It would be like when the Red Sox won with John Farrell

World Series champion, Ned Yost.