General Blue Jays Thread

bluerap23 · Post #1461 » by **bluerap23** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:12 pm

Cavan Biggio is making some progress down in Buffalo. He played in his 4th game since returning from injury and went 3 for 5 with a HR and a walk in a 20-3 drubbing of Rochester yesterday.

polo007 · Post #1462 » by **polo007** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:48 pm

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Parataxis · Post #1464 » by **Parataxis** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:57 am

Parataxis wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Parataxis wrote:Don't look now, but 538 currently has the Jays projected as the top run differential team in the AL East...

Ignoring all the pitching injuries, Springer has barely played and Jansen, Tellez and Gurriel have all been hitting at below replacement level.

Other then perhaps Vlade, who probably doesn’t fit here either, is there a single hitter on the team who has exceeded to the point where we should expect regression?

Maaaaaaaaybe Grichuk? If I had to choose somebody.

Teoscar's 300+ avg might be tough to maintain as well, but I feel like he's doing it sustainably.

Update, yup, looks like it was sustainable. Wow, I'm Impressed. In the top 4 for both average and RBIs, and just outside of the top 10 for OPS. What a great, understated season he's been having.

The_Hater · Post #1465 » by **The_Hater** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:52 am

Parataxis wrote:
Parataxis wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Ignoring all the pitching injuries, Springer has barely played and Jansen, Tellez and Gurriel have all been hitting at below replacement level.

Other then perhaps Vlade, who probably doesn’t fit here either, is there a single hitter on the team who has exceeded to the point where we should expect regression?

Maaaaaaaaybe Grichuk? If I had to choose somebody.

Teoscar's 300+ avg might be tough to maintain as well, but I feel like he's doing it sustainably.

Update, yup, looks like it was sustainable. Wow, I'm Impressed. In the top 4 for both average and RBIs, and just outside of the top 10 for OPS. What a great, understated season he's been having.

Good call on Grichick by you. But many of the players we were talking about actually got even better. Semien. Gurriel. Jansen. Kirk. Hernandez

Parataxis · Post #1466 » by **Parataxis** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:24 am

The_Hater wrote:
Parataxis wrote:
Parataxis wrote:
Maaaaaaaaybe Grichuk? If I had to choose somebody.

Teoscar's 300+ avg might be tough to maintain as well, but I feel like he's doing it sustainably.

Update, yup, looks like it was sustainable. Wow, I'm Impressed. In the top 4 for both average and RBIs, and just outside of the top 10 for OPS. What a great, understated season he's been having.

Good call on Grichick by you. But many of the players we were talking about actually got even better. Semien. Gurriel. Jansen. Kirk. Hernandez

Oh yeah, it's been an absolutely ridiculous season offensively; we've been firing on all cylinders and it's beautiful to watch.

Honestly, I believed that the Jays would eventually reach this level, but I sure as heck didn't think it would happen this year.

polo007 · Post #1467 » by **polo007** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:05 am

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The_Hater · Post #1468 » by **The_Hater** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 1:46 pm

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How does a franchise have this pitching staff in 2014 and then go 47-114 five years later?

linery88 · Post #1469 » by **linery88** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:17 am

The_Hater wrote:
linery88 wrote:
Schad wrote:

...but you were arguing that Vlad hitting in the 2nd spot was a Really Bad Idea based on the same sample of games.

All I have ever meant is this.
The comparison is flawed IMO,because of the amount of games was 11 ,compared to the first half of the season.Thats it.

Backtrack…backtrack…backtrack….

At least Vlade busted his slump based on your iron clad theory that it was because of his spot in the order……

I,m not backtracking,was clear from the start.
He busted out of his slump after he stopped batting 2nd.He so does not want to ever bat 2nd.

polo007 · Post #1470 » by **polo007** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:02 pm

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Post #1471 » by **Schad** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:17 pm

linery88 wrote:I,m not backtracking,was clear from the start.
He busted out of his slump after he stopped batting 2nd.He so does not want to ever bat 2nd.

Vlad, in 18 games hitting 2nd: 79 PA, OPS of .741.

Vlad, in his next 17 games hitting 3rd: 78 PA, OPS of .756.

It's remarkable: the profound effects of hitting 2nd were felt so deeply that it took a full three weeks of him hitting 3rd to shake them off. Or, like, he was in a perfectly natural slump that had absolutely nothing to do with his position in the batting order.

GoRapstheoriginal · Post #1472 » by **GoRapstheoriginal** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:35 pm

Borucki suspended 3 games.

s e n s i · Post #1473 » by **s e n s i** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:34 am

this wilner podcast with donaldson is terrific
- his game 3 winning run vs. texas in 2016, he didn't jump on tulo because he had a fractured foot
- tears up talking about how much he loved being here and how the situation surrounding his departure was hard on him
- talked about game 6 of the 2015 alcs
- shows why he's one of the most informed and insightful players in his argument for vlad vs. shohei, things i've never heard yet (eg. twins pitchers don't game plan for shohei like they do for vlad)
- clearly wants to come back here

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/josh-donaldson-picks-his-mvp-plus-the-rays-kevin-cash/id1556958144?i=1000536419195

polo007 · Post #1474 » by **polo007** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:53 pm

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VanWest82 · Post #1475 » by **VanWest82** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:20 pm

21 Vlad or 11 Jose?

bluerap23 · Post #1476 » by **bluerap23** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:33 pm

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I guess Biggio is not coming up this year

polo007 · Post #1477 » by **polo007** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 12:31 am

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polo007 · Post #1478 » by **polo007** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 12:31 am

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linery88 · Post #1479 » by **linery88** » Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:37 am

Schad wrote:
linery88 wrote:I,m not backtracking,was clear from the start.
He busted out of his slump after he stopped batting 2nd.He so does not want to ever bat 2nd.

Vlad, in 18 games hitting 2nd: 79 PA, OPS of .741.

Vlad, in his next 17 games hitting 3rd: 78 PA, OPS of .756.

It's remarkable: the profound effects of hitting 2nd were felt so deeply that it took a full three weeks of him hitting 3rd to shake them off. Or, like, he was in a perfectly natural slump that had absolutely nothing to do with his position in the batting order.

IMO,Vlad would never admit it publicly,but he would rather bat 3rd than 2nd anytime.
Here he is miced up when youtube had the Seattle vs Jays youtube game.
I would prefer to see him batting with more guys on base,making pitchers cringe at the thought of having to pitch to him in that scenario.

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Parataxis · Post #1480 » by **Parataxis** » Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:09 am

Has there been a duo with a less heralded 75 HRs than Teo and Marcus?

Semien is making some noise, but with all the attention that Vlade is getting, having our next two sluggers hit 75 just quietly sneaking up on ya.