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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#101 » by linery88 » Wed Oct 6, 2021 3:53 am

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vaff87 wrote:I think the Rays knew what they were doing letting these scrubs into the playoffs.

Both of these teams are garbage, let’s be honest. Rays shouldn’t have an issue with either.


The Rays are professional assasins...cold,and brutal...no mercy.
We saw it with Kiermier.Well managed,disciplined...what we should aspire to.
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#102 » by Schad » Wed Oct 6, 2021 4:06 am

If anyone wants to see what managing by the numbers actually looks like, look no further than pulling Eovaldi in the 6th on 71 pitches. The numbers over the past three seasons where he has been deployed as a starter tell a very straightforward story: he's a much worse pitcher the third time through the order. More than 100 points of OPS worse. And so as soon as he ran into trouble, he was yanked.

And yeah, the Nevin send is atrocious, but the Sox 'pen also largely had it on cruise control from that point. Notably, the pitchers Cora turned to in relief are all the guys with the lowest walk rates, because with a growing lead in the late innings, damage limitation is the primary aim.
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#103 » by Mehar » Wed Oct 6, 2021 4:17 am

linery88 wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
vaff87 wrote:I think the Rays knew what they were doing letting these scrubs into the playoffs.

Both of these teams are garbage, let’s be honest. Rays shouldn’t have an issue with either.


The Rays are professional assasins...cold,and brutal...no mercy.
We saw it with Kiermier.Well managed,disciplined...what we should aspire to.

They are an unbelievable organization in terms of scouting and player development over the last decade. 90 or more wins from 2010 to 2013, with one of the lowest payrolls in MLB. 90 or more wins in 2018 to 2019 also. 40-20 last year, and 100 wins this year, on a payroll of 70 million. Imagine if they had a budget of close to 200 million like New York. They would have been a dynasty for multiple years. The Jays should definitely aspire to be like Tampa. They will make short work of he Red Sox. Series will be a sweep or maximum 4 games. The Yankees and Red Sox, had very easy schedules handed to them this past month, where they both played a lot of garbage teams. Only reason they are in the post-season over the Jays, who blew a lot of games early in the year, with a mediocre bullpen and incompetent manager. Tampa would have probably beaten Toronto, but I thought the Jays would have been a more difficult match up for them over Boston. We can thank the garbage Nationals Bullpen also for squandering two games over the weekend, which left Toronto out. Hoping 2022 will be a different outcome for us. It would have been nice to see the Jays tonight at Fenway, with the way the bats heated up over the weekend. Unfortunately, it was not meant to be.
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#104 » by vaff87 » Wed Oct 6, 2021 5:11 am

Schad wrote:If anyone wants to see what managing by the numbers actually looks like, look no further than pulling Eovaldi in the 6th on 71 pitches. The numbers over the past three seasons where he has been deployed as a starter tell a very straightforward story: he's a much worse pitcher the third time through the order. More than 100 points of OPS worse. And so as soon as he ran into trouble, he was yanked.

And yeah, the Nevin send is atrocious, but the Sox 'pen also largely had it on cruise control from that point. Notably, the pitchers Cora turned to in relief are all the guys with the lowest walk rates, because with a growing lead in the late innings, damage limitation is the primary aim.


Everyone knows our nerds play by their own rules, and demand that Charlie bunt with two strikes.
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#105 » by vaff87 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 2:11 am

You guys think Charlie would pull Scherzer in the 5th? Lol.
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#106 » by s e n s i » Thu Oct 7, 2021 6:03 am

vaff87 wrote:You guys think Charlie would pull Scherzer in the 5th? Lol.


really depends on what the nerds have tabulated on their gameflow matrix.
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#107 » by vaff87 » Thu Oct 7, 2021 9:31 am

s e n s i wrote:
vaff87 wrote:You guys think Charlie would pull Scherzer in the 5th? Lol.


really depends on what the nerds have tabulated on their gameflow matrix.


But do you think non-confrontational Charlie would be willing to take out hyper-competitive Scherzer so early? In his first game with the Dodgers, after Roberts gave him a pat on the ass, Scherzer turned to him and said, “don’t ****ing touch me.”
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#108 » by s e n s i » Thu Oct 7, 2021 12:54 pm

vaff87 wrote:
s e n s i wrote:
vaff87 wrote:You guys think Charlie would pull Scherzer in the 5th? Lol.


really depends on what the nerds have tabulated on their gameflow matrix.


But do you think non-confrontational Charlie would be willing to take out hyper-competitive Scherzer so early? In his first game with the Dodgers, after Roberts gave him a pat on the ass, Scherzer turned to him and said, “don’t ****ing touch me.”


max would get up to 140 pitches before acquiescing. he would tear charlie a new one had it been in yesterday's scenario.

but then again, why do pitchers get mad at the manager when they are pulled, when it isn't the manager making that decision (allegedly)?
galacticos2 wrote:MLB needs to introduce an Amnesty clause. Bautista would be my first victim.

Bautista outplays his contract by more than $70 million over the next four seasons (2013-2016).
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#109 » by I_Like_Dirt » Thu Oct 7, 2021 7:54 pm

s e n s i wrote:
vaff87 wrote:
s e n s i wrote:
really depends on what the nerds have tabulated on their gameflow matrix.


But do you think non-confrontational Charlie would be willing to take out hyper-competitive Scherzer so early? In his first game with the Dodgers, after Roberts gave him a pat on the ass, Scherzer turned to him and said, “don’t ****ing touch me.”


max would get up to 140 pitches before acquiescing. he would tear charlie a new one had it been in yesterday's scenario.

but then again, why do pitchers get mad at the manager when they are pulled, when it isn't the manager making that decision (allegedly)?
Because they're mad and they direct that anger towards the face in front of them? That's basically what a manager is in most industries: someone who relays directives and handles human resources stuff both ways. A manager's job isn't making that call to pull a guy, it's to keep the guy from blowing up after that call is made. Look at things through that lens and it suddenly makes sense why Jays management might not be as down on Montoyo as the fans are. The team has far fewer internal problems than most teams out there.
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#110 » by s e n s i » Fri Oct 8, 2021 1:45 am

I_Like_Dirt wrote:
s e n s i wrote:
vaff87 wrote:
But do you think non-confrontational Charlie would be willing to take out hyper-competitive Scherzer so early? In his first game with the Dodgers, after Roberts gave him a pat on the ass, Scherzer turned to him and said, “don’t ****ing touch me.”


max would get up to 140 pitches before acquiescing. he would tear charlie a new one had it been in yesterday's scenario.

but then again, why do pitchers get mad at the manager when they are pulled, when it isn't the manager making that decision (allegedly)?
Because they're mad and they direct that anger towards the face in front of them? That's basically what a manager is in most industries: someone who relays directives and handles human resources stuff both ways. A manager's job isn't making that call to pull a guy, it's to keep the guy from blowing up after that call is made. Look at things through that lens and it suddenly makes sense why Jays management might not be as down on Montoyo as the fans are. The team has far fewer internal problems than most teams out there.


why do all managers justify their decisions as if they were their own, during post-game pressers?

if managers aren't making those decisions and instead having nerds do it all, why is this not just common, openly available knowledge at this point?

what would be the benefit in having the general public believe that the manager makes those decisions and not some geek on his laptop?

if they did want to keep it a secret, do you realize how much indoctrination and media training would be alloted for every manager in the sport?

watch the mlb network anytime. you know how much credit and praise these guys give to managers each night for the decisions they make? you know how many people in the sport criticize managers for their decisions on twitter? how they dragged dave roberts or ned yost or bobby valentine or literally any manager that has ever been a skipper at the mlb level?

if people in the know, knew that they weren't actually the ones making those decisions, why would they still criticize them?
galacticos2 wrote:MLB needs to introduce an Amnesty clause. Bautista would be my first victim.

Bautista outplays his contract by more than $70 million over the next four seasons (2013-2016).
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#111 » by Schad » Fri Oct 8, 2021 2:40 am

It's like the Matrix: if the populace knew we're merely living in a world where every action was scripted by a coterie of numbers-mad bloodsuckers, they'd eventually rise up and fight back. John Smoltz hot takes are the vanguard of the nerd conspiracy.
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#112 » by s e n s i » Fri Oct 8, 2021 2:53 am

bottom of the 11th, 2016 american league wild card game

top of blue jays order due up

the nerds bring in ubaldo jimenez, while zack britton (a top 5 reliever in the league at the time) doesn't throw a single pitch in the game lmao
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Bautista outplays his contract by more than $70 million over the next four seasons (2013-2016).
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#113 » by RalphWiggum » Fri Oct 8, 2021 2:53 am

It's so painful watching the Yankees get handled by Boston who in turn are getting handled by Tampa.
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#114 » by vaff87 » Fri Oct 8, 2021 4:34 am

RalphWiggum wrote:It's so painful watching the Yankees get handled by Boston who in turn are getting handled by Tampa.


Wouldn’t it be more painful to see those crappy teams fluke their way through the post-season? I’d rather see them get murdered by the Rays.
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#115 » by s e n s i » Fri Oct 8, 2021 5:14 am

the fox sports score chyron is an absolute monstrosity. who do they pay to come up with these?
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Bautista outplays his contract by more than $70 million over the next four seasons (2013-2016).
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#116 » by RalphWiggum » Fri Oct 8, 2021 4:10 pm

vaff87 wrote:
RalphWiggum wrote:It's so painful watching the Yankees get handled by Boston who in turn are getting handled by Tampa.


Wouldn’t it be more painful to see those crappy teams fluke their way through the post-season? I’d rather see them get murdered by the Rays.
Nahhh.

It hurts to see two clearly inferior teams get a ticket to the dance when it should've been us.
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#117 » by Hottie McShotty » Sat Oct 9, 2021 12:28 am

Tellez with a 2 run HR and a nice play to throw out a runner at home plate. Am I the only that misses this guy?
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Re: Scoreboard Watching 

Post#118 » by Raps in 4 » Sat Oct 9, 2021 4:39 am

Giants are to the Dodgers what the Rays are to us. We're obviously not as consistently good as the Dodgers, but the Rays have full possession of our souls.

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