GT: Cubs at Blue Jays(Aug 11-13)

canz55 · Post #101 » by **canz55** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:55 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:Well the Mariners pass us tonight.

You can't say they don't deserve it - they're clearly the better performing team.

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WaltFrazier · Post #102 » by **WaltFrazier** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:56 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:So Gibbons got the biggest cheer before Bautista came out (other than maybe Edwin). The perspective of having two awful managers since then.

Also Rogers and Shapiro got light boos and Beeston got cheers. Later just the mention of AA by Jose got cheers

Randle McMurphy · Post #103 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:57 pm

canz55 wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Well the Mariners pass us tonight.
You can't say they don't deserve it - they're clearly the better performing team.

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No question. They're the better team.

Brinbe · Post #104 » by **Brinbe** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:59 pm

This team easily tops in frustration

Shatkins came in to fill seats and modernize the ballpark. That's Rogers' real goal and the management nailed it.

Ranger One · Post #105 » by **Ranger One** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:05 pm

I mean, we've scored a TOTAL of 10 runs in the past 6 games and are only behind the Dodgers for most runners left on base this season. If it wasnt for the drastically improved starting pitching this year, this team is easily below .500 right now...with a 217 million sallary. What i dont understand is why nothing has been done about this. Hitting coach not fired, approaches at the plate never changing. They are simply letting this train derail and watching the inevitable wreck that follows with zero intervention from the GMs, the Managers or the Players themselves. Its just business as usual for these guys.

dagger · Post #106 » by **dagger** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:11 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Cyrus wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:I’m no real fan of Chapman and have no desire to bring him back at his age, but he’s undeniably one of the most valuable players on this team right now and replacing him with unproven minor leaguers (who are struggling in AAA right now) is a massive downgrade.

They could re-sign Whit but I’d also think that is unlikely given their internal options at 2B. Kiermaier is a bad fit on a team that already has an elite fielding/no hit CF so he’s definitely gone.

This team looks quite clearly to be getting worse in the offseason.

Whit has i believe a team option at 18 or 19 mill, they won't do better in fa market, plus he has position versatility, so I'm pretty sure they'll pick it up.

And forget Chapman, whether he's important part of this year team, he's gonna be 32 next year already at 30+ k rate, which will likely go up as he ages. Would you want to give a 5 year 150 mill deal. With all that, I'd rather give an unproven rookie a chance, hopefully he doesn't k at 30% rate

Not a chance they're giving Whit Merrifield 18M a year at age 35. He's almost certainly gone.

The Jays also clearly shouldn't sign Chapman, but that doesn't mean they aren't gonna downgrade significantly at that position when he goes.

You can decline the option and see if Whit will negotiate for a different lower price. No one is going to pay him big money

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tripa · Post #107 » by **tripa** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:11 pm

Keep the same energy

Brinbe · Post #108 » by **Brinbe** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:13 pm

better give whit a back rub for all the carrying he's doing

Ranger One · Post #109 » by **Ranger One** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:13 pm

Varsho and swinging at the high fastball and missing horribly. At this point id just order my pitchers to throw him exclusively high heaters if i was an opposing manager and beg him to beat me.

Randle McMurphy · Post #110 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:13 pm

tripa wrote:Keep the same energy

You too.

Randle McMurphy · Post #111 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:15 pm

dagger wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Cyrus wrote:
Whit has i believe a team option at 18 or 19 mill, they won't do better in fa market, plus he has position versatility, so I'm pretty sure they'll pick it up.

And forget Chapman, whether he's important part of this year team, he's gonna be 32 next year already at 30+ k rate, which will likely go up as he ages. Would you want to give a 5 year 150 mill deal. With all that, I'd rather give an unproven rookie a chance, hopefully he doesn't k at 30% rate

Not a chance they're giving Whit Merrifield 18M a year at age 35. He's almost certainly gone.

The Jays also clearly shouldn't sign Chapman, but that doesn't mean they aren't gonna downgrade significantly at that position when he goes.

You can decline the option and see if Whit will negotiate for a different lower price. No one is going to pay him big money

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If I were him, I'd try to get multiple years from someone while he still can (especially after a good year like this at his age) and I don't expect that is something the Jays will be interested in.

tripa · Post #112 » by **tripa** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:15 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
tripa wrote:Keep the same energy

You too.

Youre blocked, so I wont find out if you do after this post.

Randle McMurphy · Post #113 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:16 pm

tripa wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
tripa wrote:Keep the same energy

You too.

Youre blocked, so I wont find out if you do after this post.

What a shame.

johanliebert · Post #114 » by **johanliebert** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:16 pm

Ranger One wrote:Varsho and swinging at the high fastball and missing horribly. At this point id just order my pitchers to throw him exclusively high heaters if i was an opposing manager and beg him to beat me.

That’s what every team has done for months.

Ranger One · Post #115 » by **Ranger One** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:17 pm

johanliebert wrote:
Ranger One wrote:Varsho and swinging at the high fastball and missing horribly. At this point id just order my pitchers to throw him exclusively high heaters if i was an opposing manager and beg him to beat me.

That’s what every team has done for months.

And yet neither Varsho or our Hitting coach have deemed it necessary to make any adjustments in his hitting approach. Same goes for pretty much everyone in this lineup. Says a lot about this team.

Randle McMurphy · Post #116 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:18 pm

Vlad is a mess right now.

Ranger One · Post #117 » by **Ranger One** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:31 pm

3-0 count, two fastballs down the middle and Chapman does absolutely NOTHING with them. This is the kind of hitting approach thats been plaguing this team all year long. The fact that nothing has been done to address this problem is baffling.

Raider917 · Post #118 » by **Raider917** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:33 pm

not pinch hitting jansen for kirk and belt for biggio tells me you dont even want to win

Randle McMurphy · Post #119 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:34 pm

Raider917 wrote:not pinch hitting jansen for kirk and belt for biggio tells me you dont even want to win

Kirk has been one of their best hitters for a month or so now. No way you're pinch hitting Jansen in that spot when you have black holes like Espinal and Varsho in the lineup in the 6th. Also, is he even available?

Ranger One · Post #120 » by **Ranger One** » Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:36 pm

Raider917 wrote:not pinch hitting jansen for kirk and belt for biggio tells me you dont even want to win

This has been the case all year long. The whole mentality of this entire team is just business as usual, no drive, no ambition, no urgency to win. The fact that Schneider has been resting key starters on a daily basis while in the stretch run of a wild card race tells you all you need to know about this teams priorities.