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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#1001 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Dec 9, 2025 9:06 pm

Orioles meeting with Tucker.

It'd be hilariously sad if O's steal Tucker from the Jays.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#1002 » by Cyrus » Tue Dec 9, 2025 9:10 pm

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And ofcourse there is defferred money:

Diaz’s contract with the Dodgers contains $4.5MM in deferred salary annually, reports Sherman. The net-present value, for luxury tax purposes, is roughly $21.1MM.

Basically he opt'd out of contract that The right-hander had been guaranteed $38MM over the final two seasons of that contract (so 24 mill), to get an additional year, but a lower AVV (With deferred)
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#1004 » by Cyrus » Tue Dec 9, 2025 9:31 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Orioles meeting with Tucker.

It'd be hilariously sad if O's steal Tucker from the Jays.


Might be, they were apparently in on Kyle Schwarber, offering him the same contract that he signed with Philly.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6876322/2025/12/09/kyle-schwarber-orioles-phillies-mlb-free-agency/?source=emp_shared_article

So might get desperate and offer bigger one to Tucker.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#1005 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Dec 9, 2025 9:35 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Orioles meeting with Tucker.

It'd be hilariously sad if O's steal Tucker from the Jays.


Might be, they were apparently in on Kyle Schwarber, offering him the same contract that he signed with Philly.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6876322/2025/12/09/kyle-schwarber-orioles-phillies-mlb-free-agency/?source=emp_shared_article

So might get desperate and offer bigger one to Tucker.


It's just hard to see the O's offering up a contract close to 300mil. But who knows... crazier things have happened.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#1006 » by Cyrus » Tue Dec 9, 2025 9:39 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Orioles meeting with Tucker.

It'd be hilariously sad if O's steal Tucker from the Jays.


Might be, they were apparently in on Kyle Schwarber, offering him the same contract that he signed with Philly.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6876322/2025/12/09/kyle-schwarber-orioles-phillies-mlb-free-agency/?source=emp_shared_article

So might get desperate and offer bigger one to Tucker.


It's just hard to see the O's offering up a contract close to 300mil. But who knows... crazier things have happened.


For sure, it's interesting that all the big teams haven't really been on Tucker, and i wonder why... No talk about Dodgers going after him, or Mets, don't the mets need an OF after trading Nimmo. or Yankees wouldn't they rather have Tucker over Cody Bellinger?
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#1007 » by Hottie McShotty » Tue Dec 9, 2025 9:51 pm

bartron_44 wrote:Diaz to the Dodgers really sucks. They have fixed their only weakness from last year.

They really need Suarez now… and Tucker …. And Bo. Come on Ross, make it rain!!


If we can get all 3 that will be one incredible off-season and a big FK you to the Dodgers too!
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#1008 » by JN » Tue Dec 9, 2025 9:52 pm

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And ofcourse there is defferred money:

Diaz’s contract with the Dodgers contains $4.5MM in deferred salary annually, reports Sherman. The net-present value, for luxury tax purposes, is roughly $21.1MM.

Basically he opt'd out of contract that The right-hander had been guaranteed $38MM over the final two seasons of that contract (so 24 mill), to get an additional year, but a lower AVV (With deferred)


Was it guaranteed 48m or 38m?
Your math above to get to 24m is not working out .. unless the 38m was a typo.


Seems like a good contract for the Diaz and Diaz does t get much from opting out. But perhaps getting to a good organization rather than the mess that is the Mets was his main motivation to opt out.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#1009 » by Hottie McShotty » Tue Dec 9, 2025 9:53 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Orioles meeting with Tucker.

It'd be hilariously sad if O's steal Tucker from the Jays.


Jays can offer more. No?
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#1010 » by Cyrus » Tue Dec 9, 2025 10:25 pm

JN wrote:
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And ofcourse there is defferred money:

Diaz’s contract with the Dodgers contains $4.5MM in deferred salary annually, reports Sherman. The net-present value, for luxury tax purposes, is roughly $21.1MM.

Basically he opt'd out of contract that The right-hander had been guaranteed $38MM over the final two seasons of that contract (so 24 mill), to get an additional year, but a lower AVV (With deferred)


Was it guaranteed 48m or 38m?
Your math above to get to 24m is not working out .. unless the 38m was a typo.


Seems like a good contract for the Diaz and Diaz does t get much from opting out. But perhaps getting to a good organization rather than the mess that is the Mets was his main motivation to opt out.


Bad math, he opt'd out of 38 mill guarantee, so 19 mill, and gets one now that's 21.8 or whatever (After deferred money), plus an extra year.

Surprised though he only signed for 3 years.

What does this mean for Ranger, will he get 3 years as well for an older dude going to be 35 when the season starts.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#1011 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Dec 9, 2025 10:49 pm

Hottie McShotty wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Orioles meeting with Tucker.

It'd be hilariously sad if O's steal Tucker from the Jays.


Jays can offer more. No?


Definitely but we have a limit and O's have a personal connection w/ Tucker.
I believe the man that drafted him is not the executive of the O's. (Don't quote me on this)
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#1015 » by JN » Tue Dec 9, 2025 11:23 pm

Hottie McShotty wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Orioles meeting with Tucker.

It'd be hilariously sad if O's steal Tucker from the Jays.


Jays can offer more. No?


Tucker is from, or lives in Charlotte from what I heard.
Still 7 hour drive from Baltimore but generally both in Mid-Atlantic area. Seems to be to far to be a consideration but it is one of the 2 teams that is closest to Charlotte (Atlanta, Baltimore/Washington).

So maybe a factor like that comes into consideration, where he accepts an offer that is in the similar realm even if lower.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#1016 » by JN » Tue Dec 9, 2025 11:26 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
Hottie McShotty wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Orioles meeting with Tucker.

It'd be hilariously sad if O's steal Tucker from the Jays.


Jays can offer more. No?


Definitely but we have a limit and O's have a personal connection w/ Tucker.
I believe the man that drafted him is not the executive of the O's. (Don't quote me on this)


Indeed there are some Houston ties in Baltimore. I don't know the exact specifics, I heard it come up when somebody was discussing potential landing spot for Framber Valdez.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#1017 » by JN » Tue Dec 9, 2025 11:27 pm

Cyrus wrote:
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And ofcourse there is defferred money:

Diaz’s contract with the Dodgers contains $4.5MM in deferred salary annually, reports Sherman. The net-present value, for luxury tax purposes, is roughly $21.1MM.

Basically he opt'd out of contract that The right-hander had been guaranteed $38MM over the final two seasons of that contract (so 24 mill), to get an additional year, but a lower AVV (With deferred)


Was it guaranteed 48m or 38m?
Your math above to get to 24m is not working out .. unless the 38m was a typo.


Seems like a good contract for the Diaz and Diaz does t get much from opting out. But perhaps getting to a good organization rather than the mess that is the Mets was his main motivation to opt out.


Bad math, he opt'd out of 38 mill guarantee, so 19 mill, and gets one now that's 21.8 or whatever (After deferred money), plus an extra year.

Surprised though he only signed for 3 years.

What does this mean for Ranger, will he get 3 years as well for an older dude going to be 35 when the season starts.


I would think it deflates the reliever market a bit, especially term.
Unless Diaz had 4 and 5 year offers, and chose to go LA because its LA.
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#1018 » by Cyrus » Yesterday 12:55 am

JN wrote:
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Was it guaranteed 48m or 38m?
Your math above to get to 24m is not working out .. unless the 38m was a typo.


Seems like a good contract for the Diaz and Diaz does t get much from opting out. But perhaps getting to a good organization rather than the mess that is the Mets was his main motivation to opt out.


Bad math, he opt'd out of 38 mill guarantee, so 19 mill, and gets one now that's 21.8 or whatever (After deferred money), plus an extra year.

Surprised though he only signed for 3 years.

What does this mean for Ranger, will he get 3 years as well for an older dude going to be 35 when the season starts.


I would think it deflates the reliever market a bit, especially term.
Unless Diaz had 4 and 5 year offers, and chose to go LA because its LA.


Could also mean another team gets desperate on losing on Diaz and gives an extra year. Considering both us and mets were in on Diaz and Mets offering a rumored 3 year 66 mill
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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#1019 » by LoveMyRaps » Yesterday 1:28 am

Morosi: down to Mets and Jays for Suarez


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Re: 2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread 

Post#1020 » by Cyrus » Yesterday 1:33 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:Morosi: down to Mets and Jays for Suarez


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Fully expect it to be Mets, unless we gave Suarez an offer he can't refuse.

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