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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1201 » by JaysRule15 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:42 am

Can we also talk about Varsho. I get that he's a power threat but he's been brutal in this series. 2-20 with like 7 strikeouts. And he's still hitting middle of the order and we're wasting opportunities with runners on base. Bases loaded, nobody out and he strikes out on a pitch not even close. He needs to be dropped in the lineup. At this point I'd rather see Clement and maybe even Gimenez hit before Varsho.
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1202 » by mdenny » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:42 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
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Randle McMurphy wrote:Nothing Dominguez hasn’t gotten out of loads of times before

Great matchups for him against Randy and Suarez and he just didn’t get it done


Or you know… he could have started the inning with nobody on base in the 8th or 9th.

Dominguez shouldn’t be starting an inning against 3 straight LHBs in a 1 run game, now that would be even stupider



Wow. A level-headed take.

But you make a great point.

But baseball is the easiest sport in the world to second-guess decisions after results. I would've liked to see Fluharty to be honest. He seems clutch. But there really was NOT a "good" option available. Dominguez against 3 lefties isnt a good option either.

I don't see the loss as a manager error but moreso an exposure of a league-average bullpen getting beat in the playoffs. It's a weakness of the roster.

One of two teams has to be down 3-2 after 5 games. It's definitely not the end. We just need Tre and Shane to come through big.

And i hope they do....because this was a magical season. There's no chance they gst this far next season or any other season in foreseeable future. Every year.....2 teams in MLB get lucky and have everything fall right to maximize their collective ability and over-achieve. So it basically happens for a franchise once every 15 years pr so. The Jays were one of those teams this year. They'll be fighting for 3rd place in their division next year. They certainly aren't an "up-and-coming' team.

We'd all have taken this scenario after game 2. Big balls to win 2 games in Seattle.

Jays were NOT supposed to go this far and they were NOT supposed to force a game 6. All this is gravy imo. House money.
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1203 » by linery88 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:42 am

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dh_45 wrote:That was an intentionally hit on Springer **** Seattle


I suspect it was deliberate. Woo had quite good command of his pitches up to that point. I'm really angry right now so much so that I want to punch a hole in my wall!

They planned,and got their revenge.Tough to move out of the way when its your knee.Woo demonstrated great command on that assault pitch.They have hated Springer for Houston.Too bad they didnt take away their WS.Cheated all season.
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1204 » by Mehar » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:43 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
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Randle McMurphy wrote:Lol at citing ERA as some kind of indication of how well he’s been pitching.

He looked like a complete disaster in September, he allowed the most HRs of any RP in baseball on the season and his command has been all over the place in October other than last night

He’s not been good since July but sure definitely a guy worth trusting against Cal Raleigh in a one run game haha


You are literally (Please Use More Appropriate Word). The stupid troll act is getting lame. Go to sleep.

No, please tell us more about why using the reliever with the most HRs allowed in baseball against a 60HR hitter was such a no brainer

Today’s outcome was on the FO for not building a good enough bullpen as much as it was on Little, Schneider for anyone else

Hey Randle, are you actually saying that out of all the options that bringing in Little was a good decision? You got to be kidding me.
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1205 » by Natural11 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:44 am

rarefind wrote:Little literally crying in his post game. He shouldn’t have been put in the situation. I feel badly for him.


I've got no issue with Little, he is who we thought he was. This is on Schneider. You go with your best option in that scenario and if it doesn't work out, so be it.
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1206 » by RalphWiggum » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:44 am

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Randle McMurphy wrote:Do we have a best option? If so, who was it


You bring your closer in there. They have been riding or dying with Hoffman all season and he had actually looked decent recently.

Hoffman has been a dreadful reliever for two months now

That’s not your best option there

There’s no real obvious guy to pitch in that spot
There was an obvious guy not to put in there.

There isn't a Jays fan on the planet or a player in that dugout that was happy to see Little coming in.
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1207 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:44 am

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JaysRule15 wrote:
He didn't. But the pitch wasn't bad. Fastball away. Suarez was just sitting on it because the bases were loaded. To say that Dominguez wasn't any better than Little isn't fair.

It is fair, the guy allowed a backbreaking grand slam after hitting a guy in great matchups for him statistically

Little was put against Cal Raleigh for who knows what reason

I said three days ago that both Little and Dominguez should be replaced in the off-season with better options, and others disagreed. You need to prioritize getting Strike Throwers and not nervous wrecks like Little with atrocious control and velocity. Little's numbers since August 29 are a disgrace. He will never recover from this melt down. Good luck elsewhere in 2026.

Both have their uses to me, strikeouts are super important out of a bullpen

Little isn’t a guy you should be using in that spot though
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1208 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:44 am

Mehar wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
-MetA4- wrote:
You are literally (Please Use More Appropriate Word). The stupid troll act is getting lame. Go to sleep.

No, please tell us more about why using the reliever with the most HRs allowed in baseball against a 60HR hitter was such a no brainer

Today’s outcome was on the FO for not building a good enough bullpen as much as it was on Little, Schneider for anyone else

Hey Randle, are you actually saying that out of all the options that bringing in Little was a good decision? You got to be kidding me.


he's just blaming Shaktins - lets be honest. :lol:
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1209 » by rapstarter » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:44 am

JaysRule15 wrote:Can we also talk about Varsho. I get that he's a power threat but he's been brutal in this series. 2-20 with like 7 strikeouts. And he's still hitting middle of the order and we're wasting opportunities with runners on base. Bases loaded, nobody out and he strikes out on a pitch not even close. He needs to be dropped in the lineup. At this point I'd rather see Clement and maybe even Gimenez hit before Varsho.


Yeah, I've been so upset I almost forgot about another stinker by him.
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1210 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:45 am

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raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#1211 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:45 am

RalphWiggum wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Natural11 wrote:
You bring your closer in there. They have been riding or dying with Hoffman all season and he had actually looked decent recently.

Hoffman has been a dreadful reliever for two months now

That’s not your best option there

There’s no real obvious guy to pitch in that spot
There was an obvious guy not to put in there.

There isn't a Jays fan on the planet or a player in that dugout that was happy to see Little coming in.

Which was why I was hating on the move as soon as it happened

But I think the fact that they even went to Little speaks to how weak the bullpen is and how little they actually do trust Hoffman
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1212 » by JCP11 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:45 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
-MetA4- wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Lol at citing ERA as some kind of indication of how well he’s been pitching.

He looked like a complete disaster in September, he allowed the most HRs of any RP in baseball on the season and his command has been all over the place in October other than last night

He’s not been good since July but sure definitely a guy worth trusting against Cal Raleigh in a one run game haha


You are literally (Please Use More Appropriate Word). The stupid troll act is getting lame. Go to sleep.

No, please tell us more about why using the reliever with the most HRs allowed in baseball against a 60HR hitter was such a no brainer

Today’s outcome was on the FO for not building a good enough bullpen as much as it was on Little, Schneider or anyone else

He's still your closer, you die on that hill.
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1213 » by RalphWiggum » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:45 am

xAIRNESSx wrote:All the Jays commentators are absolutely ripping into Schneider
He's lucky he's not a center-back for Team Columbia.
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1214 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:46 am

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JaysRule15 wrote:Can we also talk about Varsho. I get that he's a power threat but he's been brutal in this series. 2-20 with like 7 strikeouts. And he's still hitting middle of the order and we're wasting opportunities with runners on base. Bases loaded, nobody out and he strikes out on a pitch not even close. He needs to be dropped in the lineup. At this point I'd rather see Clement and maybe even Gimenez hit before Varsho.


Yeah, I've been so upset I almost forgot about another stinker by him.


sometimes you run into pitchers that you can't hit. as long as he's also defending we can be more lenient on his offensive output.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1215 » by linery88 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:46 am

Is Schneider allowed to make a **** decision on his own there.Does he have veto power ?
Cant help but wonder something is off here,especially after last nights Schneider moves.
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1216 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:47 am

JCP11 wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
-MetA4- wrote:
You are literally (Please Use More Appropriate Word). The stupid troll act is getting lame. Go to sleep.

No, please tell us more about why using the reliever with the most HRs allowed in baseball against a 60HR hitter was such a no brainer

Today’s outcome was on the FO for not building a good enough bullpen as much as it was on Little, Schneider or anyone else

He's still your closer, you die on that hill.

You don't have to die on that hill at all, no
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1217 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:47 am

linery88 wrote:Is Schneider allowed to make a **** decision on his own there.Does he have veto power ?
Cant help but wonder something is off here,especially after last nights Schneider moves.


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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1218 » by rarefind » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:48 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
rarefind wrote:Little shouldn’t have even been on the roster. What an absolute travesty.

Yeah Bruihl for me over the guy who had the most strikeouts on the roster out of the pen


This is not it.

Little has been atrocious for the last month. We all know it and you do too. Stop.
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1219 » by Mehar » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:48 am

JaysRule15 wrote:Can we also talk about Varsho. I get that he's a power threat but he's been brutal in this series. 2-20 with like 7 strikeouts. And he's still hitting middle of the order and we're wasting opportunities with runners on base. Bases loaded, nobody out and he strikes out on a pitch not even close. He needs to be dropped in the lineup. At this point I'd rather see Clement and maybe even Gimenez hit before Varsho.

Randle's hero has sucked this entire series. He needs to be hitting 8th or 9th. Clement should be moved up the order. Varsho looks like a fool at the plate swinging balls out of the Strike Zone and popping up like a fool time after time. Silence from Randle about the atrocious performance of his hero.
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Re: ALCS Game #5 - Toronto at Seattle (Friday, 6:08) 

Post#1220 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:48 am

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
rapstarter wrote:
JaysRule15 wrote:Can we also talk about Varsho. I get that he's a power threat but he's been brutal in this series. 2-20 with like 7 strikeouts. And he's still hitting middle of the order and we're wasting opportunities with runners on base. Bases loaded, nobody out and he strikes out on a pitch not even close. He needs to be dropped in the lineup. At this point I'd rather see Clement and maybe even Gimenez hit before Varsho.


Yeah, I've been so upset I almost forgot about another stinker by him.


sometimes you run into pitchers that you can't hit. as long as he's also defending we can be more lenient on his offensive output.

You're not gonna drop Daulton Varsho in the order because he's had like 4 bad games lol

The guy had a massive series literally 6 days ago and was on pace for a 50 HR season, you're gonna live and/or die with him in that spot
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