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dagger wrote:
So we should pay Rasmus his $14m qualifying offer? That's Cloud cuckoo land stuff. A Gose/Pillar platoon wouldn't be much of a downgrade, if any, on Rasmus.

We don't have to give him a qualifying offer to stay here though. Maybe he likes it here and would re-sign a 3-5 year deal with options in them. What's cuckoo is wanting 2 players in CF next year that cant even hit the ball over the outfielders head.

BigLeagueChew wrote:

dagger wrote:
So we should pay Rasmus his $14m qualifying offer? That's Cloud cuckoo land stuff. A Gose/Pillar platoon wouldn't be much of a downgrade, if any, on Rasmus.

We don't have to give him a qualifying offer to stay here though. Maybe he likes it here and would re-sign a 3-5 year deal with options in them. What's cuckoo is wanting 2 players in CF next year that cant even hit the ball over the outfielders head.

Maybe he likes it here? The available evidence via the media suggests there isn't much less in the relationship either way. And as we've seen in this series, opponents have figured out you can run on his arm.

Since 2009, Rasmus' WAR's have been: 2.6, 4.0, 0.5, 1.0, 4.8, 0.7.

Whoever signs him long-term will likely get very inconsistent performance. When his BABIP is over .350, he'll probably be pretty good (as was the case in 2010 and 2013). Otherwise he is a low-OBP player who will strike out a metric ton and will likely decline defensively (at CF) as he gets older.

If you can get him to sign a one year deal (not the QO), then go for it. If not, it's definitely time to make a change. I just wish they realized this last off-season rather than now.

dagger wrote:
Maybe he likes it here? The available evidence via the media suggests there isn't much less in the relationship either way. And as we've seen in this series, opponents have figured out you can run on his arm.

Yes sometimes he makes bad throws from centre field. Still would like to keep him and get last years version of Rasmus, which is better than Pillar and Gose would be and arguments can be made that even a struggling Rasmus is still better than both of them.

Pillar's hitting .355 on balls in play, and his inability to draw walks is something of a killer. The increased power makes it more likely that he can stick as a fourth outfielder, but I don't have much hope beyond that...he swings far, far too much, which one can get away with against the middling stuff of many minor leaguers, but which leads to a lot of weak contact and swinging strikes against major league pitching.

BigLeagueChew wrote:

dagger wrote:
Maybe he likes it here? The available evidence via the media suggests there isn't much less in the relationship either way. And as we've seen in this series, opponents have figured out you can run on his arm.

Yes sometimes he makes bad throws from centre field. Still would like to keep him and get last years version of Rasmus, which is better than Pillar and Gose would be and arguments can be made that even a struggling Rasmus is still better than both of them.

What is it about Rasmus you like? He's going to be a highly paid mediocrity if he stays, and we have better ways to spend that money.

dagger wrote:
What is it about Rasmus you like? He's going to be a highly paid mediocrity if he stays, and we have better ways to spend that money.

Just that hes only 27 and as recently as last year was a top 5 CF value in all MLB. His inconsistent play has frustrated me as well but hes better than what we have seen, the stats support that at least. He has been mediocre this year, but last year he definitely wasn't.

Guys.... we have Dalton Pompey too you know.

MikeM wrote:Guys.... we have Dalton Pompey too you know.

I wouldn't expect him to be breaking camp with the Jays, and I'd be uneasy about bringing him up even in mid-season unless he's utterly fantastic...he has so few reps above A ball, and I'm not fond of rushing guys through the upper minors only to have to send them back down if they prove unready.

Schadenfreude wrote:

MikeM wrote:Guys.... we have Dalton Pompey too you know.

I wouldn't expect him to be breaking camp with the Jays, and I'd be uneasy about bringing him up even in mid-season unless he's utterly fantastic...he has so few reps above A ball, and I'm not fond of rushing guys through the upper minors only to have to send them back down if they prove unready.

I mean he'd have to come up at some point during Colby's brand new 3-5 year contract so that's why I'm letting Colby go.

Much, much rather pay Melky.

Pillar has been absolutely terrible in each of his call ups. His career 26.5% whiff rate and 2.6% walk rate really does not make me feel any better that his fortunes will change with more consistent playing time.

Regardless how well he is playing at AAA, breaking camp with him as a starter would be a brutal decision.

MikeM wrote:I mean he'd have to come up at some point during Colby's brand new 3-5 year contract so that's why I'm letting Colby go.

Much, much rather pay Melky.

No doubt, though if we're planning to compete next year, we need more of a bridge to Pompey than Gose/Pillar, particularly as that tandem runs the risk of forcing us into making decisions on Pompey's development based on our needs rather than his readiness. Mentioned it before, but I'd be interested to find out how much the Astros would want for Dex Fowler, who'll be expensive in arbitration, will be a free agent after 2015, and happens to be represented by an agent who they just burned in a big way. He also happens to be a decent comp for Pompey himself, for what it's worth, though perhaps poorer defensively.

As for paying Melky...eh. I'd offer him the QO, but I'd be wary of going long-term with a bat-only player whose defense is trending toward making him a DH.

Walk off Grand Slam, Brett Wallace! His third of the game (HR - not grand slam) Bisons win it in the 12th and are now tied for a playoff spot with the Paw Sox.

Jackie Bradley has really fallen off a cliff. And Brett Wallace has power? Who knew?

dagger wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/DunedinBlueJays/status/502601481053556736[/tweet]

And Castro has been promoted to Dunedin

Starts at Dunedin tonight

Need some feel good, need some feel good...

Castro went 5.2 with three hits, two earned runs, 3 walks and 3 Ks.
Dwight Smith 3-4 with a homer and a double (don't know why he isn't in New Hampshire)
LB Danzler 2-4

Rowdy Tellez with his first MWL homer.

Seems or our old friend Bickford has dropped out of school and going into the 2015 draft as a potential #1 overall pick.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/jimcallisMLB/status/504358985462718464[/tweet]

dagger wrote:Seems or our old friend Bickford has dropped out of school and going into the 2015 draft as a potential #1 overall pick.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/jimcallisMLB/status/504358985462718464[/tweet]

Guess our scouts know their talent. A lot of baseball pundits panned this pick when the Jays drafted him.

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Norris gets knocked around.

4.0IP, 8Hits, 6Runs,3BB,3K's, 1HR

dagger wrote:Dwight Smith 3-4 with a homer and a double (don't know why he isn't in New Hampshire)

As he missed a bit of time, probably keeping him in Dunedin to get the extra reps as they're in the playoffs.