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Re: Wild Card Game: Baltimore (Tillman) @ Toronto (Stroman) | Tuesday, October 4 | 8PM EST 

Post#1741 » by johanliebert » Wed Oct 5, 2016 8:08 am

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Boogie! wrote:you dont have to lay down a perfect bunt to get the runner to third in this situation... the point is you need 1 run to win... it doesnt matter who it is... you lay down the bunt and advance that runner... why let him swing away and take a chance at striking out or grounding into a double play and wasting outs... that has to be a bunt no matter what and i have no idea why they **** that up... that play couldve come back to bite them in the ass... even if martin hits that ground ball next at bat, theres a chance that run scores from 3rd... that shouldve been a bunt. im not overly critical of managerial decisions in general, especially because i think baseball is one of those games thats largely based on players performing... but the fact that they ddint call for a bunt in that situation perplexes me... sometimes you gotta play small...


You need to lay down a very good bunt. That's not an easy task when you don't bunt and are facing a guy with a tricky delivery, with a hobbled runner on second. I'd lay the odds of him successfully advancing both runners well below 50/50.


what are the odds of him actually getting a base hit? or striking out? or grounding into a double play?

no, i dont care. i dont care if hes the **** bunter on the team. that has to be a bunt. you take that chance and if he **** up, he **** up. he also could **** up striking out, which he did, or he could **** up grounding into the double play. he could **** up many ways... laying down a bunt to advance a runner to third with no out to me is the safest bet. asking bautista to bunt isnt the same as asking ryan goins to hit a home run. its not as "tricky" a situation as people make it seem... were not asking him to bunt for a base hit here... were simply asking him to put some wood on the ball.

if theyre down a run, i wouldnt bunt. if theres one out, im obviously not bunting. if its first and third, im not bunting... but a runner on second with no out, bottom of the inning youre the home team and you only need one run to win? that has to be a bunt 10 times out of 10.


they won the game go to bed. i don't know who started this small ball nonsense.

go to bed arm chair gms.
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Re: Wild Card Game: Baltimore (Tillman) @ Toronto (Stroman) | Tuesday, October 4 | 8PM EST 

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Re: Wild Card Game: Baltimore (Tillman) @ Toronto (Stroman) | Tuesday, October 4 | 8PM EST 

Post#1743 » by Fairview4Life » Wed Oct 5, 2016 9:53 am

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To be fair, we're like one mascot-punching from being in Philadelphia territory.


Remember when Yankees fans threw beer on the field after arod was called out for the Arroyo glove slap?


You're Brandon-Clyding, but this is sports so I'll allow it.


Remember when two white sox fans jumped on the field and attacked an umpire?

Remember when Cubs fans threw all kinds of **** at Steve Bartman?
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Re: Wild Card Game: Baltimore (Tillman) @ Toronto (Stroman) | Tuesday, October 4 | 8PM EST 

Post#1744 » by The_Hater » Wed Oct 5, 2016 10:15 am

johanliebert wrote:
Boogie! wrote:
Schad wrote:
You need to lay down a very good bunt. That's not an easy task when you don't bunt and are facing a guy with a tricky delivery, with a hobbled runner on second. I'd lay the odds of him successfully advancing both runners well below 50/50.


what are the odds of him actually getting a base hit? or striking out? or grounding into a double play?

no, i dont care. i dont care if hes the **** bunter on the team. that has to be a bunt. you take that chance and if he **** up, he **** up. he also could **** up striking out, which he did, or he could **** up grounding into the double play. he could **** up many ways... laying down a bunt to advance a runner to third with no out to me is the safest bet. asking bautista to bunt isnt the same as asking ryan goins to hit a home run. its not as "tricky" a situation as people make it seem... were not asking him to bunt for a base hit here... were simply asking him to put some wood on the ball.

if theyre down a run, i wouldnt bunt. if theres one out, im obviously not bunting. if its first and third, im not bunting... but a runner on second with no out, bottom of the inning youre the home team and you only need one run to win? that has to be a bunt 10 times out of 10.


they won the game go to bed. i don't know who started this small ball nonsense.

go to bed arm chair gms.


Nobody mentioned small ball for 2 years until the bats went cold in September. Then suddenly Some people wanted to completely change the strategy of the team ignoring.how the team is built and the relative strengths and weaknesses of the individual players.

As I mentioned a couple of weeks back, people love small ball until your dead last in the league in runs scored and then they'd be asking for high OBP players with power bats again.
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Post#1745 » by Northface82 » Wed Oct 5, 2016 10:31 am

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Re: Wild Card Game: Baltimore (Tillman) @ Toronto (Stroman) | Tuesday, October 4 | 8PM EST 

Post#1746 » by vaff87 » Wed Oct 5, 2016 10:58 am

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what are the odds of him actually getting a base hit? or striking out? or grounding into a double play?

no, i dont care. i dont care if hes the **** bunter on the team. that has to be a bunt. you take that chance and if he **** up, he **** up. he also could **** up striking out, which he did, or he could **** up grounding into the double play. he could **** up many ways... laying down a bunt to advance a runner to third with no out to me is the safest bet. asking bautista to bunt isnt the same as asking ryan goins to hit a home run. its not as "tricky" a situation as people make it seem... were not asking him to bunt for a base hit here... were simply asking him to put some wood on the ball.

if theyre down a run, i wouldnt bunt. if theres one out, im obviously not bunting. if its first and third, im not bunting... but a runner on second with no out, bottom of the inning youre the home team and you only need one run to win? that has to be a bunt 10 times out of 10.


they won the game go to bed. i don't know who started this small ball nonsense.

go to bed arm chair gms.


Nobody mentioned small ball for 2 years until the bats went cold in September. Then suddenly Some people wanted to completely change the strategy of the team ignoring.how the team is built and the relative strengths and weaknesses of the individual players.

As I mentioned a couple of weeks back, people love small ball until your dead last in the league in runs scored and then they'd be asking for high OBP players with power bats again.


Nah, we still had guys here crying for our best hitters to suicide squeeze even when our offense was hot.
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Re: Wild Card Game: Baltimore (Tillman) @ Toronto (Stroman) | Tuesday, October 4 | 8PM EST 

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Post#1750 » by Fairview4Life » Wed Oct 5, 2016 12:09 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:
Hoopstarr wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:
Remember when Yankees fans threw beer on the field after arod was called out for the Arroyo glove slap?


You're Brandon-Clyding, but this is sports so I'll allow it.


Remember when two white sox fans jumped on the field and attacked an umpire?

Remember when Cubs fans threw all kinds of **** at Steve Bartman?


Remember when Cardinals fans called Jason Heyward the n word?
9. Similarly, IF THOU HAST SPENT the entire offseason predicting that thy team will stink, thou shalt not gloat, nor even be happy, shouldst thou turn out to be correct. Realistic analysis is fine, but be a fan first, a smug smarty-pants second.
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Re: Wild Card Game: Baltimore (Tillman) @ Toronto (Stroman) | Tuesday, October 4 | 8PM EST 

Post#1751 » by Fairview4Life » Wed Oct 5, 2016 12:25 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:
Hoopstarr wrote:
You're Brandon-Clyding, but this is sports so I'll allow it.


Remember when two white sox fans jumped on the field and attacked an umpire?

Remember when Cubs fans threw all kinds of **** at Steve Bartman?


Remember when Cardinals fans called Jason Heyward the n word?


Remember when Baltimore had to play a home game without any fans for safety reasons?
9. Similarly, IF THOU HAST SPENT the entire offseason predicting that thy team will stink, thou shalt not gloat, nor even be happy, shouldst thou turn out to be correct. Realistic analysis is fine, but be a fan first, a smug smarty-pants second.
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Re: Wild Card Game: Baltimore (Tillman) @ Toronto (Stroman) | Tuesday, October 4 | 8PM EST 

Post#1752 » by TR50 » Wed Oct 5, 2016 12:29 pm

Who gives a **** about anything else....we freaking won!! Bring on Texas!!!
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Post#1753 » by YogiStewart » Wed Oct 5, 2016 12:56 pm

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i can understand him using ubaldo (since ubaldo shut us down last week i think) thinking the game would extend a few more innings and saving britton for the close, what i dont understand is when we had runners on 1st and 3rd with 1 out, why he didnt pull ubaldo ASAP and use britton then. in a do or die situation you need to go with your lockdown closer... does ubaldo have an exceptionally high ground ball rate that he trusted he could generate the double play? either way, thats the only part of his decision i question. not the fact that he didnt use britton in general because if ubaldo was pitching well and could extend the game hed have britton ready to close, but the fact that in that specific situation, why he didnt bite the bullet and just bring him out right there.


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Post#1756 » by IMAN5 » Wed Oct 5, 2016 1:20 pm

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Post#1757 » by emptytheclip » Wed Oct 5, 2016 1:29 pm

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Post#1759 » by tecumseh18 » Wed Oct 5, 2016 1:40 pm

This ESPN guy is really yucking it up on his twitter feed.

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Post#1760 » by PaulieWal » Wed Oct 5, 2016 2:12 pm

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Fairview4Life wrote:
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You're Brandon-Clyding, but this is sports so I'll allow it.


Remember when two white sox fans jumped on the field and attacked an umpire?

Remember when Cubs fans threw all kinds of **** at Steve Bartman?


Remember when Cardinals fans called Jason Heyward the n word?


According to Jones fans were yelling racial slurs at him and Kim last night too though obviously one fan should never define a fan base.
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