Toronto Blue Jays (54 - 64) at Los Angeles Angels (52 - 66)

Boogie! · Post #21 » by **Boogie!** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:43 am

Guerrero on fire even his grounders are doubles

Randle McMurphy · Post #22 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:55 am

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MVP Varsho leading the team to another victory.

Boogie! · Post #23 » by **Boogie!** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:48 am

Love watching this version of Guerrero.

GameChannel · Post #24 » by **GameChannel** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:21 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:

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MVP Varsho leading the team to another victory.

Yep! With his sub-.700 OPS he sure is the MVP. :roll:

bluerap23 · Post #25 » by **bluerap23** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:32 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:

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MVP Varsho leading the team to another victory.

Randle McMurphy · Post #26 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 5:38 am

GameChannel wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:

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MVP Varsho leading the team to another victory.

Yep! With his sub-.700 OPS he sure is the MVP.

Yes, that’s what a league average hitter who plays generationally good defense in CF is. Those 3 hits and a HR tonight will irritate a great many, I’m sure.

Fairview4Life · Post #27 » by **Fairview4Life** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 11:13 am

I’d assume Vladdy hitting like Ted Williams would eventually take the team war lead by the end of the year, no?

JN · Post #28 » by JN » Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:41 pm

Jays scored 9 runs .. but only 3 players on the team got any hits. Wonder if that has happened before.

JN · Post #29 » by JN » Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:44 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:I’d assume Vladdy hitting like Ted Williams would eventually take the team war lead by the end of the year, no?

Vladdy up 1.1 in fangraphs WAR and up 0.1 in bref WAR.

No doubt he is our MVP.

Randle McMurphy · Post #30 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:35 pm

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Hottie McShotty · Post #31 » by **Hottie McShotty** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:45 pm

Sell high. lol.

You don't sell high on a player like Vladdy. You build around him. Back up the Brink truck and give this guy what he wants!

You can trade Bo and sell high on him in the off-season.

Brinbe · Post #32 » by **Brinbe** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:55 pm

pay that man. i'm guessing they'll wait till alonso gets his deal and then see what's up. But he's making like 20 mil right now and will get an even bigger jump in arb once again. but even if you increase that to 30-35 per, that's like nothing considering the overall value he brings to the organisation. no need to overthink things. figure out a deal and get it done in the off-season.

but we'll see what rogers does.

Randle McMurphy · Post #33 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:10 pm

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Randle McMurphy · Post #34 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:12 pm

Brinbe wrote:but we'll see what rogers does.

They aren’t giving a 1B who hit grounders for 2+ years 400M (and that will surely be his ask if he keeps hitting like prime Barry Bonds for any longer)

Brinbe · Post #35 » by **Brinbe** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:22 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Brinbe wrote:but we'll see what rogers does.

They aren’t giving a 1B who hit grounders for 2+ years 400M (and that will surely be his ask if he keeps hitting like prime Barry Bonds for any longer)

poor trolling even for you, mustard.

hits grounders lmfao

Randle McMurphy · Post #36 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:24 pm

Brinbe wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
Brinbe wrote:but we'll see what rogers does.

They aren’t giving a 1B who hit grounders for 2+ years 400M (and that will surely be his ask if he keeps hitting like prime Barry Bonds for any longer)

poor trolling even for you, mustard.

hits grounders lmfao

If you have an better way of describing why he was simply an above average (and decidedly not elite) hitter in 2022 (133 wRC+) and 2023 (119 wRC+), I'd love to hear it. The exit velos have been there the entire time; the results were not.

Randle McMurphy · Post #37 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:26 pm

Probably also worth noting that George Springer has sneakily gone back to his atrocious April/May form over the last month as Vlad has gone on this run. It's a silly plan as it is, but I really have no idea how the Jays plan to contend in 2025 if they're running that guy out regularly in RF.

ItsDanger · Post #38 » by **ItsDanger** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:07 pm

Vlad on absolute fire but can't beat advanced stats MVP Varsho. Doesn't matter if he hits .330 with 35 homers either. /s

Fairview4Life · Post #39 » by **Fairview4Life** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 7:08 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Vlad on absolute fire but can't beat advanced stats MVP Varsho. Doesn't matter if he hits .330 with 35 homers either. /s

Did you miss this post?

JN wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:I’d assume Vladdy hitting like Ted Williams would eventually take the team war lead by the end of the year, no?

Vladdy up 1.1 in fangraphs WAR and up 0.1 in bref WAR.

No doubt he is our MVP.

So Vladdy is actually up in WAR at this point.

-MetA4- · Post #40 » by **-MetA4-** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 7:25 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Vlad on absolute fire but can't beat advanced stats MVP Varsho. Doesn't matter if he hits .330 with 35 homers either. /s

He is clearly trolling the people on here who continue to try to pretend like Varsho is a bench player (because gAbRiel mORenO!). Hopefully you aren't one of those clowns.

Varsho is now up to 98 wRC+ (so basically league-average hitting for his position) with elite defense and above-average baserunning.

If you go by Statcast run values:

Vlad: +36 batting, -3 baserunning, -8 fielding = +25 total runs
Varsho: +2 batting, +1 baserunning, +15 fielding = +18 total runs

Its a lot closer than people would probably assume.