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Post#221 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:13 am

rarefind wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Will be great to have a SS who can field at an elite level again for first time in a decade, I agree


I'm more excited about the bat!!!


Having Gimenez as one of your highest players to be a worse than replacement level bat with a good glove is a negative.

He'll be a 3 win player at SS next year if he stays healthy and that's even if he doesn't hit

Not really an issue at all
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Post#222 » by linery88 » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:13 am

Still chopping at the ball.
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Post#223 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:14 am

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rarefind wrote:Andres Gimenez is an injury preventing him from providing defensive upside away from being dfa'd.

He's already playing through an injury, he can't even run


or hit either it seems

Probably affecting his swing, that's a good point

Just like with Varsho after his rotator cuff injury, we can expect a bounceback the following year
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Post#224 » by PushDaRock » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:14 am

rarefind wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Will be great to have a SS who can field at an elite level again for first time in a decade, I agree


I'm more excited about the bat!!!


Having Gimenez as one of your highest players to be a worse than replacement level bat with a good glove is a negative.


Yeah, but you aren't considering that paying him 20m means we can't OVERPAY Bichette, what a W!!!
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Post#225 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:15 am

Nance over Dominguez is a strange one, we're in trouble
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Post#226 » by PushDaRock » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:15 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:He's already playing through an injury, he can't even run


or hit either it seems

Probably affecting his swing, that's a good point

Just like with Varsho after his rotator cuff injury, we can expect a bounceback the following year


Gimenez the new MVP next year?
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Post#227 » by rarefind » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:16 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
rarefind wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
I'm more excited about the bat!!!


Having Gimenez as one of your highest players to be a worse than replacement level bat with a good glove is a negative.

He'll be a 3 win player at SS next year if he stays healthy and that's even if he doesn't hit

Not really an issue at all


No.

This is not the guy you pay 24m to. Absolutely not. Never. Fire anyone who does.

We gambled on fixing his swing and lost the bet miserably.
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Post#228 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:17 am

PushDaRock wrote:
rarefind wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
I'm more excited about the bat!!!


Having Gimenez as one of your highest players to be a worse than replacement level bat with a good glove is a negative.


Yeah, but you aren't considering that paying him 20m means we can't OVERPAY Bichette, what a W!!!

Maybe Ed will step in and give him an even worse contract than Vlad and we can have two long-term DHs

Clamor enough for it and you can hope
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Post#229 » by Mehar » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:17 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:Nance over Dominguez is a strange one, we're in trouble

Hopefully that means Dominguez coming in the 9th.
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Post#230 » by rarefind » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:18 am

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Randle McMurphy wrote:Nance over Dominguez is a strange one, we're in trouble

Hopefully that means Dominguez coming in the 9th.


Hoffman coming in would be so incredibly hilarious.
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Post#231 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:18 am

rarefind wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
rarefind wrote:
Having Gimenez as one of your highest players to be a worse than replacement level bat with a good glove is a negative.

He'll be a 3 win player at SS next year if he stays healthy and that's even if he doesn't hit

Not really an issue at all


No.

This is not the guy you pay 24m to. Absolutely not. Never. Fire anyone who does.

We gambled on fixing his swing and lost the bet miserably.

Unworried, his defense is all-time stuff and he hasn't even been being used at shortstop

The guy will be worth the money even if he doesn't hit
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Post#232 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:18 am

Mehar wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Nance over Dominguez is a strange one, we're in trouble

Hopefully that means Dominguez coming in the 9th.

Not a thing you should be hoping for with as many LHBs are due up next inning
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Post#233 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:20 am

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Post#234 » by PushDaRock » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:20 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
rarefind wrote:
Having Gimenez as one of your highest players to be a worse than replacement level bat with a good glove is a negative.


Yeah, but you aren't considering that paying him 20m means we can't OVERPAY Bichette, what a W!!!

Maybe Ed will step in and give him an even worse contract than Vlad and we can have two long-term DHs

Clamor enough for it and you can hope


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Post#235 » by PushDaRock » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:21 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
rarefind wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:He'll be a 3 win player at SS next year if he stays healthy and that's even if he doesn't hit

Not really an issue at all


No.

This is not the guy you pay 24m to. Absolutely not. Never. Fire anyone who does.

We gambled on fixing his swing and lost the bet miserably.

Unworried, his defense is all-time stuff and he hasn't even been being used at shortstop

The guy will be worth the money even if he doesn't hit


What if he hits at 400 OPS?
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Post#236 » by Lateral Quicks » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:21 am

The team is gambling that Santander can be ready for the playoffs. That's the wrong play. Should have kept rolling with Loperfido and Schneider.
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Post#237 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:22 am

PushDaRock wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Yeah, but you aren't considering that paying him 20m means we can't OVERPAY Bichette, what a W!!!

Maybe Ed will step in and give him an even worse contract than Vlad and we can have two long-term DHs

Clamor enough for it and you can hope


:pray:

Will be 4 DHs all on one team next year (Springer, Santander, Vlad, Bo), that would be an experiment
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Post#238 » by rarefind » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:22 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
rarefind wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:He'll be a 3 win player at SS next year if he stays healthy and that's even if he doesn't hit

Not really an issue at all


No.

This is not the guy you pay 24m to. Absolutely not. Never. Fire anyone who does.

We gambled on fixing his swing and lost the bet miserably.

Unworried, his defense is all-time stuff and he hasn't even been being used at shortstop

The guy will be worth the money even if he doesn't hit


He won't though. He has had multiple IL stints playing 2b. You think he can play a full year at short?

Even if he plays 162 games he isn't worth the money that could've been better spent elsewhere. You could've traded prospects for a comparable glove who can't hit who is getting paid far less.

How many teams do you think were bidding for the servies of Gimenez this winter? My bet is there was just one. Furthermore, if Andres Gimenez is a FA this winter he isn't getting paid that type of $.
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Post#239 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:22 am

Lateral Quicks wrote:The team is gambling that Santander can be ready for the playoffs. That's the wrong play. Should have kept rolling with Loperfido and Schneider.

Loperfido isn't any good

And Davis will still start vs. LHPs

With Bichette out for weeks to come, they badly need to take that gamble
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Post#240 » by PushDaRock » Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:22 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:Maybe Ed will step in and give him an even worse contract than Vlad and we can have two long-term DHs

Clamor enough for it and you can hope


:pray:

Will be 4 DHs all on one team next year (Springer, Santander, Vlad, Bo), that would be an experiment


Gimenez and Varsho can defend 2 positions at once!!!

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