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Post#241 » by JTT » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:28 pm

Schad wrote:I'm really very unenthused about the idea of giving Kris Bryant anything in the 6 year, $160m range that MLBTR projected.

Really, super duper unenthused. Let's do 1/14 or 2/24 on Kyle Seager instead. No need to block the youngsters coming especially on a contract thats not gonna age well and potentially stop us from resigning one of our own guys. We got our pitcher, short term contracts the rest of the way.
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Post#242 » by Schad » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:36 pm

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Schad wrote:I'm really very unenthused about the idea of giving Kris Bryant anything in the 6 year, $160m range that MLBTR projected.

Really, super duper unenthused. Let's do 1/14 or 2/24 on Kyle Seager instead. No need to block the youngsters coming especially on a contract thats not gonna age well and potentially stop us from resigning one of our own guys. We got our pitcher, short term contracts the rest of the way.


Absolutely. Seager on a short-term deal makes far more sense to me than signing a guy who is already aging off of 3B and has been really uneven in recent years to a mega-deal that is likely to start looking worse almost from the day it's signed. Leave that to the Mets or Mariners.
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Post#244 » by Cyrus » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:56 pm

What about chris Taylor that we are rumored to look at, he can play SS/3rd/2nd and CF? Good versatility, with Springer being out so many games last year.

He has a draft pick loss attached to him though right?
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Post#245 » by Michael Bradley » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:30 pm

Of the remaining free agents, Taylor does make the most sense, even though it will cost a draft pick. My guess is the max will be 4 years, and AAV somewhere between $15-20M, so not cheap, but won't be a $100-$150M contract that might hinder future flexibility.
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Post#248 » by dagger » Wed Dec 1, 2021 1:10 am

Valera has been released and Shaun Anderson has cleared waivers.


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Post#249 » by Randle McMurphy » Wed Dec 1, 2021 1:29 am

dagger wrote:Valera has been released and Shaun Anderson has cleared waivers.


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The Jays are tied 1-1 entering the bottom of the 9th. Left handed reliever Gregory Soto walks Hernandez on six pitches to lead off the 9th. Soto then walks Gurriel on six pitches to leave two on and no out with noted lefty masher Alejandro Kirk coming to the plate (.988 OPS vs. LHP in 2021). Sounds good for the Jays and Kirk, right? It wasn't. Montoyo decides this is the time he wants to make quite possibly the most inexplicable managing decision in team history. Instead of letting Kirk hit, he chooses to pinch hit Breyvic Valera (the worst hitter on the team) for Kirk. Valera isn't up there to hit, though, oh no. He's up there to bunt. He's up there to bunt against a LHP throwing 98 who just walked two batters in a row and had showed no sign of being able to hit the plate. I'll say that again. Montoyo has just pinch hit Breyvic Valera for Alejandro Kirk to bunt after two walks against a lefty in the 9th inning of a tie game. Valera, who is not a good bunter, fails to get the bunt down on the first two pitches. Montoyo, seeing this and being who he is, asks him to bunt for a third time with two strikes despite the Tigers 1B playing no more than 20 feet from the plate. By some chance, Valera makes contact but bunts it directly to the 1B who throws it to 3rd for the force out. Randal Grichuk (and yes, this is who we pinch hit Kirk with Valera to set up) immediately grounds into a double play to end the inning. The Jays lose in the 10th.
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Post#250 » by Schad » Wed Dec 1, 2021 1:45 am

dagger wrote:Valera has been released


But really, in this moment, we have all been released.
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dagger wrote:Valera has been released and Shaun Anderson has cleared waivers.

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Post#252 » by s e n s i » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:14 am

valera gone? someone please check on charlie to make sure he's alright
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Post#253 » by SharoneWright » Wed Dec 1, 2021 3:44 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
dagger wrote:Valera has been released and Shaun Anderson has cleared waivers.


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The Jays are tied 1-1 entering the bottom of the 9th. Left handed reliever Gregory Soto walks Hernandez on six pitches to lead off the 9th. Soto then walks Gurriel on six pitches to leave two on and no out with noted lefty masher Alejandro Kirk coming to the plate (.988 OPS vs. LHP in 2021). Sounds good for the Jays and Kirk, right? It wasn't. Montoyo decides this is the time he wants to make quite possibly the most inexplicable managing decision in team history. Instead of letting Kirk hit, he chooses to pinch hit Breyvic Valera (the worst hitter on the team) for Kirk. Valera isn't up there to hit, though, oh no. He's up there to bunt. He's up there to bunt against a LHP throwing 98 who just walked two batters in a row and had showed no sign of being able to hit the plate. I'll say that again. Montoyo has just pinch hit Breyvic Valera for Alejandro Kirk to bunt after two walks against a lefty in the 9th inning of a tie game. Valera, who is not a good bunter, fails to get the bunt down on the first two pitches. Montoyo, seeing this and being who he is, asks him to bunt for a third time with two strikes despite the Tigers 1B playing no more than 20 feet from the plate. By some chance, Valera makes contact but bunts it directly to the 1B who throws it to 3rd for the force out. Randal Grichuk (and yes, this is who we pinch hit Kirk with Valera to set up) immediately grounds into a double play to end the inning. The Jays lose in the 10th.


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