Toronto Blue Jays @ St. Louis Cardinals

Mehar · Post #261 » by **Mehar** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:24 am

A win is a win, but holy cow what a disaster of a manager John Schneider is.

Post #262 » by **JaysRule15** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:24 am

My god, Schneider is a horrible manager. There was no need to pull Fluharty to begin with. And then every move he made after that was wrong.

C Court · Post #263 » by **C Court** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:25 am

Keeping winning.

Put in Hoffman? Who knows why.

JN · Post #264 » by JN » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:25 am

7 games above .500
Somehow

Fun game, with some WTFs

Randle McMurphy · Post #265 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:26 am

JaysRule15 wrote:My god, Schneider is a horrible manager. There was no need to pull Fluharty to begin with. And then every move he made after that was wrong.

Arden ripping him at least

Still can’t fathom the Fluharty pull

SharoneWright · Post #266 » by **SharoneWright** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:26 am

This is exactly how you go 37-30 and maintain a +1 run differential

JN · Post #267 » by JN » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:27 am

C Court wrote:Keeping winning.

Put in Hoffman? Who knows why.

Bringing him in with 1 out would have been fine... it was 50/50.

But once Green got that 2nd out on poor contact, the math to bring in Hoffman made little sense, especially since you passed on the move earlier when it made more sense.

Randle McMurphy · Post #268 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:27 am

If he doesn’t trust Chad Green enough to pitch with 2 outs in the 9th there (and honestly I wouldn’t either, he’s one of the worst RPs in baseball), why was he put in the 8th inning in the first place

There’s no consistent logic to any of this

SharoneWright · Post #269 » by **SharoneWright** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:28 am

JN wrote:
C Court wrote:Keeping winning.

Put in Hoffman? Who knows why.

Bringing him in with 1 out would have been fine... it was 50/50.
But once Green got that 2nd out on poor contact, the math to bring in Hoffman made little sense.

Forget math, he was going by “feel”. It’s like starting Bargnani at small forward for the first time ever in the playoffs.

Randle McMurphy · Post #270 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:29 am

SharoneWright wrote:This is exactly how you go 37-30 and maintain a +1 run differential

Well that and getting regularly blown out due to having only 3 SPs

Mehar · Post #271 » by **Mehar** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:29 am

Need Sandlin and Garcia to come back soon, so we see less of Chad "Meatball" Green in high leverage situations. His ERA does not fully reflect how horrible of a pitcher he currently is. He has been bailed out time after time by solid defensive play behind him, and gets hit hard on a regular basis.

dh_45 · Post #272 » by **dh_45** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:32 am

Schneider tried his best to blow that game with his moronic moves. I just knew Hoffman was going to give up that home run

Mehar · Post #273 » by **Mehar** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:34 am

JaysRule15 wrote:
Mehar wrote:Chad Green is the guy you use in low leverage situations. Just idiotic to bring him in that scenario, and not let Fluharty continue. Cannot believe he is getting paid 10.5 million this season. Great job by his agent.

If we can't use him in a 8-4 game, I don't even see why he's on the team. Might as well eat the salary.

I would eat his salary when Sandlin and Garcia come back, but I doubt this front office has the stomach for that.

SharoneWright · Post #274 » by **SharoneWright** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:38 am

Mehar wrote:
JaysRule15 wrote:
Mehar wrote:Chad Green is the guy you use in low leverage situations. Just idiotic to bring him in that scenario, and not let Fluharty continue. Cannot believe he is getting paid 10.5 million this season. Great job by his agent.

If we can't use him in a 8-4 game, I don't even see why he's on the team. Might as well eat the salary.

I would eat his salary when Sandlin and Garcia come back, but I doubt this front office has the stomach for that.

Maybe they could ask Vlad to eat his salary.

Post #275 » by **JaysRule15** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 2:43 am

SharoneWright wrote:
Mehar wrote:
JaysRule15 wrote:
If we can't use him in a 8-4 game, I don't even see why he's on the team. Might as well eat the salary.

I would eat his salary when Sandlin and Garcia come back, but I doubt this front office has the stomach for that.

Maybe they could ask Vlad to eat his salary.

Ok ngl that made me laugh out so loud at the gym that people turned around to stare :lol:

Randle McMurphy · Post #276 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:27 am

The Jays have won every game they’ve played for 2 weeks now except for the three that Bowden Francis started

johanliebert · Post #277 » by **johanliebert** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:54 am

I didn’t like pulling berrios either with 2 outs in the 7th. Anytime John makes a move it’s as if he has a gun to his head- - that’s because he does these moves come from the nerds upstairs.

johanliebert · Post #278 » by **johanliebert** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:55 am

Read on Twitter

Randle McMurphy · Post #279 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:58 am

johanliebert wrote:I didn’t like pulling berrios either with 2 outs in the 7th. Anytime John makes a move it’s as if he has a gun to his head- - that’s because he does these moves come from the nerds upstairs.

I don’t think the nerds upstairs told him to pull Fluharty for a guy with a 6 FIP

Post #280 » by **JaysRule15** » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:07 am

johanliebert wrote:I didn’t like pulling berrios either with 2 outs in the 7th. Anytime John makes a move it’s as if he has a gun to his head- - that’s because he does these moves come from the nerds upstairs.

There's no way analytics would support pulling Fluharty in that situation. Not with Green pitching like trash for a while now. Schneider outsmarted himself.