World Series Game 3 - Toronto at LA - The Comebackening

[Boogie!]

Guys I have no idea why everyone is still debating management decisions. We had so many opportunities to capitalize with risp and we didn’t. Not to mention Guerrero has absolutely disappeared this series. No RBI’s, all singles and soft contact except for the one he crushed off Yamamoto.

5/15 with 3 walks and only 1 strikeout. Guerrero is just fine.

Guerrero is there to do what ohtani is doing:..

[LoveMyRaps]

Must win one of the remaining two games in LA

Tough position to be in.

[brwnman]

Ump was horrific as well. Hope they revoke his license to oversee postseason games.

He won’t get another chance this series.

[JaysRule15]

Who did you want him to put in?

Going Straw for Barger. Stupidest decision made for no reason.

Pitching to Ohtani and letting him tie the game and then walking him afterwards.

All dumb decisions.

Nothing wrong with Straw for Barger whatsoever, he's literally made that exact move all season and you/nor anyone else said a word

It's different with a lead. We didn't have a lead and had already lost Springer and Kirk. And this wasn't a platoon decision either.

[Randle McMurphy]

Probably because it wasn't a tie game in the World Series with the lineup already down Springer and Bo.

But managing is tough. I get it. I'm just saying that's the only move I didn't like at the time.

And if Straw scores on a single in that spot in the 8th and we go on to win by one, he's considered a genius

It's still a pretty obvious pinch run decision, just not as obvious as the Bichette and Kirk ones

People complaining about the Kirk and Bo pinch runners are on something man. You cant manage for extra innings until it happens. Considering both teams didnt score for literally 3.5 hrs it was a good gamble to take with a 90th percentile speed guy in Straw vs 53rd percentile in Barger. Playing for 1 run was the right move.

I honestly don't think many here have watched many true extra inning games, particularly in the postseason

There was nothing unusual about any of those moves lol

You have to try to score that one run and win the game in the late innings, you can't expect you're gonna play 10 more innings

[SharoneWright]

Probably because it wasn't a tie game in the World Series with the lineup already down Springer and Bo.

But managing is tough. I get it. I'm just saying that's the only move I didn't like at the time.

And if Straw scores on a single in that spot in the 8th and we go on to win by one, he's considered a genius

It's still a pretty obvious pinch run decision, just not as obvious as the Bichette and Kirk ones

I'm not sure it was that obvious. It was a tough call. The Dodgers manager also had a bunch of chances to use pinch runners and didn't. He opted to keep his big bats in the lineup and it paid off for him. Sure, it could have gone the other way, But let's not pretend this was the only likely decision Schneider could have made there.

Since when do people think Barger can’t score from 2nd base on a single running with 2 outs?

It was a classic made for TV move from the “manager of the year.” to demonstrate how smart he is. All it did was hamstring us for 12 innings.

And yeah, you always consider the possibility of a long game.

[brwnman]

Guys I have no idea why everyone is still debating management decisions. We had so many opportunities to capitalize with risp and we didn’t. Not to mention Guerrero has absolutely disappeared this series. No RBI’s, all singles and soft contact except for the one he crushed off Yamamoto.

5/15 with 3 walks and only 1 strikeout. Guerrero is just fine.

Guerrero is there to do what ohtani is doing:..

Then your expectations of him is wrong, not what Guerrero is doing out there. He hasn’t disappeared in any way. Still been the best hitter the team has and made the defensive play of the game for the Jays throwing out Teo at 3rd.

[JaysRule15]

If Bo is going to be getting lifted partway into the game, maybe start him down lower in the order. So you don't have a bench bat hitting cleanup afterwards.

[Boogie!]

Guys I have no idea why everyone is still debating management decisions. We had so many opportunities to capitalize with risp and we didn’t. Not to mention Guerrero has absolutely disappeared this series. No RBI’s, all singles and soft contact except for the one he crushed off Yamamoto.

Vlad was getting trash pitches to hit. They were basically pitching around him.

He had pitches to hit. He just didn’t capitalize. He had some hangers thy he just bricked of didn’t swing and couldn’t put good wood on the fastballs in the zone. Again vladdy has been great all postseason but we needed power tonight

[Randle McMurphy]

Going Straw for Barger. Stupidest decision made for no reason.

Pitching to Ohtani and letting him tie the game and then walking him afterwards.

All dumb decisions.

Nothing wrong with Straw for Barger whatsoever, he's literally made that exact move all season and you/nor anyone else said a word

It's different with a lead. We didn't have a lead and had already lost Springer and Kirk. And this wasn't a platoon decision either.

Wrong, Kirk was in the game until the 12th

And the fact that it was tied was even a greater reason to do it, we needed that run and Straw's baserunning (which is elite) could have aided in that

[brwnman]

If Bo is going to be getting lifted partway into the game, maybe start him down lower in the order. So you don't have a bench bat hitting cleanup afterwards.

He’ll be DH’ing from tomorrow onwards.

[Boogie!]

5/15 with 3 walks and only 1 strikeout. Guerrero is just fine.

Guerrero is there to do what ohtani is doing:..

Then your expectations of him is wrong, not what Guerrero is doing out there. He hasn’t disappeared in any way. Still been the best hitter the team has and made the defensive play of the game for the Jays throwing out Teo at 3rd.

no my expectations are for him to be a superstar and carry the team and those are very realistic rspecially when the rest of the lineup is what it is. Again I’m tied or this bull **** excuses man. We all know what he’s capable of again he was amazing all playoffs. Hee needs to show up like it’s the Yankees series again.

[LoveMyRaps]

If Bo is going to be getting lifted partway into the game, maybe start him down lower in the order. So you don't have a bench bat hitting cleanup afterwards.

There’s no reason to lift him anyways.
He’s fkin fine.

Freddie played on one leg last year and helped the dodgers win the World Series. Was the MVP.

[brwnman]

And if Straw scores on a single in that spot in the 8th and we go on to win by one, he's considered a genius

It's still a pretty obvious pinch run decision, just not as obvious as the Bichette and Kirk ones

I'm not sure it was that obvious. It was a tough call. The Dodgers manager also had a bunch of chances to use pinch runners and didn't. He opted to keep his big bats in the lineup and it paid off for him. Sure, it could have gone the other way, But let's not pretend this was the only likely decision Schneider could have made there.

Since when do people think Barger can’t score from 2nd base on a single running with 2 outs?

It was a classic made for TV move from the “manager of the year.” to demonstrate how smart he is. All it did was hamstring us for 12 innings.

And yeah, you always consider the possibility of a long game.

It’s not so much he can’t score, it’s that Straw has a better chance to score. You have to play for the win there.

[Randle McMurphy]

If Bo is going to be getting lifted partway into the game, maybe start him down lower in the order. So you don't have a bench bat hitting cleanup afterwards.

Given he's going to be DH'ing going forward, I very much doubt he'll be getting lifted midway through the game anymore

[RalphWiggum]

Schneider lost us this. Don't even blame Little.

Ya it’s 90% on Schneider

Heineman honestly isn’t even that much faster than Kirk. Like come on man… what are we doing here

Kirk has scored on a single from 2nd once this year and only scores from 1st on triples and booted doubles. I was ok with pinch running for him at that point in the game.

In the end we had 6-7 good opportunities to push a run across to take the lead and possibly win. The players time and time again didn't execute.

While there were a couple moves Schneider made that I didn't love I think it's beyond unfair to put this loss on him.

[Mehar]

What is done is done, but I would never had taken out Barger for Straw, when you are already down Springer and Kirk. With Springer out, have Bichette at DH and Davis Schneider at Second Base. I cannot handle watch IKF getting 4 at bats, and he is not some Golf Glove Second Baseman out there. The offense had chances, but just could not get it done unfortunately.

[brwnman]

Guerrero is there to do what ohtani is doing:..

Then your expectations of him is wrong, not what Guerrero is doing out there. He hasn’t disappeared in any way. Still been the best hitter the team has and made the defensive play of the game for the Jays throwing out Teo at 3rd.

no my expectations are for him to be a superstar and carry the team and those are very realistic rspecially when the rest of the lineup is what it is. Again I’m tied or this bull **** excuses man. We all know what he’s capable of again he was amazing all playoffs. Hee needs to show up like it’s the Yankees series again.

There are no excuses. Expecting him to have a 1.500 OPS for the entire postseason is unrealistic expectation on your part. Even after tonight, his post season OPS is higher than Ohtani’s.

[Randle McMurphy]

Probably because it wasn't a tie game in the World Series with the lineup already down Springer and Bo.

But managing is tough. I get it. I'm just saying that's the only move I didn't like at the time.

And if Straw scores on a single in that spot in the 8th and we go on to win by one, he's considered a genius

It's still a pretty obvious pinch run decision, just not as obvious as the Bichette and Kirk ones

I'm not sure it was that obvious. It was a tough call. The Dodgers manager also had a bunch of chances to use pinch runners and didn't. He opted to keep his big bats in the lineup and it paid off for him. Sure, it could have gone the other way, But let's not pretend this was the only likely decision Schneider could have made there.

And the Dodgers very nearly lost that game a half dozen times if one of our players could have managed a clutch hit or walk in a big spot

Then Roberts is getting questioned on not pinch running guys lol

Baseball is funny that way

[JaysRule15]

Nothing wrong with Straw for Barger whatsoever, he's literally made that exact move all season and you/nor anyone else said a word

It's different with a lead. We didn't have a lead and had already lost Springer and Kirk. And this wasn't a platoon decision either.

Wrong, Kirk was in the game until the 12th

And the fact that it was tied was even a greater reason to do it, we needed that run and Straw's baserunning (which is elite) could have aided in that

Point remains that Barger isn't exactly slow. He can score from second. And Springer was gone already. Barger plays outfield for us. He's not a slow player where you gotta pinch run for him when we don't have the lead.

Why didnt the Dodgers start moving in their bench players? They kept the original lineup and didn't take away from their offense.

It didn't work out for Schneider and I'm hardly the only one talking about it. Even the USA broadcast mentioned it.