World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM

[dh_45]

Ikf not getting a better lead, taking yesavage out early, thinking Hoffman could hold a 1 run lead with 4 outs, and maybe taking Bo out late were the most glaring mistakes

[Natural11]

IKF has provided absolutely no value at all. Is there any stat tracking his speed on the bases, is he even faster than Davis Schenider? I don't even think he is a better 2B either. At least Straw is legitimately fast and a great defender in the outfield to compensate for his bat. We would have been the 2025 champs if IKF was off the WS roster.

There was never a reason to play him. Barger could have played third, move Ernie over, and Davis is fine in the corner outfield. So many ABs were thrown away playing those guys. When you have to ask your #4 hitter to bunt because he will be an unproductive out otherwise.... holy. That's the **** you do in blowouts, not tie games.

[canz55]

Someone needs to watch out for Hoffman - he's taking this the worst.

[linery88]

IKF has provided absolutely no value at all. Is there any stat tracking his speed on the bases, is he even faster than Davis Schenider? I don't even think he is a better 2B either. At least Straw is legitimately fast and a great defender in the outfield to compensate for his bat. We would have been the 2025 champs if IKF was off the WS roster.

There was never a reason to play him. Barger could have played third, move Ernie over, and Davis is fine in the corner outfield. So many ABs were thrown away playing those guys. When you have to ask your #4 hitter to bunt because he will be an unproductive out otherwise.... holy. That's the **** you do in blowouts, not tie games.

So many fundamental mistakes,and choices after we were praised for it ,in the last 2 games at home,where we had 1 win in this series.
in 2015 KC beat us because they were better,and we went down swinging,so there was no stupid stubborn moves that we complained about after,except the Cecil injury.
Time to get serious like they said before but smart serious like Kraft/Belichik/Brady..cut the fat of whatever doesn,t work,and go for winning,and nothing else.The Fans deserve it,the players,and the city.

[Wise80]

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Hmmmm.

Add it to the list of brain farts, micues, and unclutch plays/not getting the job done. It's a long list.

Seemed like we had way to many opportunities over the last few games with guys on 2nd and no outs, or 3rd with 1 out. That's the reason we lost. We don't even need to look at runners in scoring position with 2 outs. Seems like luck/timely hitting left us 2 games to early.

[Wise80]

I was paying attention to the poll before the game and thought it was weird that someone voted we were going to lose. Another person voted during the game and 2 others after we lost. Voting after the game is done so you can be right is just weird.

[Hottie McShotty]

I've never been this depressed in my life!

To think we were two outs from winning it all...

The missed opportunities in this game as well.. SMFH.. I love and hate this team at the same time.

[Mehar]

In terms of fundamentals only (disregarding hitting) IKF was our worst playoff performer. Multiple fumbles on D, poor base running, struggling with bunts multiple times. So disappointing.

iKF is the only player I have shat on after this game and I plan to keep it that way. Lots of positives from this team and even managemt over the course of the seaoson that I will focus on — and may start a thread about. But IKF, ****.

IKF has provided absolutely no value at all. Is there any stat tracking his speed on the bases, is he even faster than Davis Schenider? I don't even think he is a better 2B either. At least Straw is legitimately fast and a great defender in the outfield to compensate for his bat. We would have been the 2025 champs if IKF was off the WS roster.

IKF had no business being on the playoff roster. Simple as that. Davis Schneider could have played Second, instead of being parked on the bench so this scrub can get regular at bats in the World Series. One of the worst acquisitions made by the front office.

[Mehar]

Someone needs to watch out for Hoffman - he's taking this the worst.

It is tough when you let the Number 9 hitter beat you. Hoffman should be relegated to Set Up man for 2026, where he was excellent in Philadelphia.

However, It would have been nice if this pathetic offense got an insurance run for him also, but they choked like dogs. Another Closer in the off-season is a must though. Hoffman just gives up too much hard contact and home runs for a Closer. Need to go in a different direction for 2026.

[Raps in 4]

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Hmmmm.

John Schneider made this guy pinch run for Bo?

Complete lack of baseball fundamentals on the part of IKF and John Schneider

lol I didn't know it was that bad, what was he even thinking? Just playing in fear.

He wasn't thinking. That's the problem. He's been making bone-headed plays all playoffs, but our idiot manager/FO didn't care.

- Low IQ
- Slow runner
- Poor defender
- Well below league average bat

"Let's play him every game of the playoffs" - Shatkins

The guy does not have a single MLB skill.

[Raps in 4]

I've never been this depressed in my life!

To think we were two outs from winning it all...

The missed opportunities in this game as well.. SMFH.. I love and hate this team at the same time.

I'm just mad at this dumb **** organization. Even when we do something right, we don't do it fully right. Like, who the **** plays IKF in the WS? Who the **** has Lukes batting second? Why the **** did it take so long to move Varsho down? Why the **** did we not acquire a closer at any point during the season? Why the **** did we not demote Hoffman when it was clear for months that he wasn't an MLB closer?

Shapiro has been an MLB president/GM fpr a quarter of a **** century and he's still ringless. It's obvious why.

[WuTang_CMB]

How tf did we not win. I feeel sick. Was at the game what a game and experience that was but man too many highs and lows and blown opportunities

[ChumboChappati]

To be honest, the Blue Jays were lucky to come this far. Both Yankees and Marniers were more talented than Blue Jays, so Blue Jays making the World Series was pretty lucky. And then in World Series Dodgers were playing like 50% of their talent and thats why it went to 7 games. If the Dodgers were playing like 80% of their talent then they would have swept the World Series.
Future is also looking bleak for the Blue Jays. Bo is out. They dont have a real ace. The lack of Salary Cap in MLB will continue to hurt them and other small market teams.

[brwnman]

Ikf not getting a better lead, taking yesavage out early, thinking Hoffman could hold a 1 run lead with 4 outs, and maybe taking Bo out late were the most glaring mistakes

Having Varsho on the team and in the lineup when there are 5 better ML OF was probably the singular most glaring mistake this franchise has ever made. Cost them a WS. Everything else could have been mitigated if you didn’t have an anchor that brought the team with his play and general ineptitude.

[Mehar]

I've never been this depressed in my life!

To think we were two outs from winning it all...

The missed opportunities in this game as well.. SMFH.. I love and hate this team at the same time.

I'm juat mad at this dumb **** organization. Even when we do something right, we don't do it fully right. Like, who the **** plays IKF in the WS? Who the **** has Lukes batting second? Why the **** did it take so long to move Varsho down? Why the **** did we not acquire a cloaer at any point during the season? Why the **** did we not demote Hoffman when it was clear for months that he wasn't an MLB closer?

Shapiro has been an MLB president/GM fpr a quarter of a **** century and he's still ringless. It's obvious why.

Same questions I have in my head. I had a hard time sleeping. Will take me a long time to get over this. I said after Game 6 that if you were serious about winning Game 7- Vlad needed to hit Second. Both Lukes and Varsho should be hitting outside the Top 5. That Clement needed to hit above Varsho. If I and a few others can see these things- why the **** does a guy like Shapiro and his buddy Atkins making millions not see these things?

I am still trying to figure out what value this front office saw in IKF? IKF is a better defender at SS/3rd base, but less so at Second. Why not give Davis Schneider the chance at Second Base, and have Loperfido on the World Series roster as a Pinch Runner who is faster? There is a reason why Shapiro has won Jack. Unfortunately, we are stuck with him for many more years now, along with his buddy Atkins.

[PowerPlant1]

I understand Hoffman being given the 4 outs. He had turned it around in the playoffs. He made 1 mistake and I feel bad for him but overall he was great for the Jays in the postseason.

It was clearly a mistake. He got Ohtani out right after Rojas.

Really, no one in the jays BP including Yesavage looked solid. Dominguez almost gave it away the previous inning. The only other guys to consider using were Gausman on no rest, Lauer and maybe to consider Bassitt for one more inning.

Bieber was more of a questionable move for me because of the Dodgers hitting solo HRs and his tendency to give them up in bunches.

[NinjaBro]

Worst Halloween weekend ever

[Reeko]

To be honest, the Blue Jays were lucky to come this far. Both Yankees and Marniers were more talented than Blue Jays, so Blue Jays making the World Series was pretty lucky. And then in World Series Dodgers were playing like 50% of their talent and thats why it went to 7 games. If the Dodgers were playing like 80% of their talent then they would have swept the World Series.
Future is also looking bleak for the Blue Jays. Bo is out. They dont have a real ace. The lack of Salary Cap in MLB will continue to hurt them and other small market teams.

Damn so who are the Dodgers real starters then? Half of those guys that played are back ups? Crazy.

[dh_45]

I understand Hoffman being given the 4 outs. He had turned it around in the playoffs. He made 1 mistake and I feel bad for him but overall he was great for the Jays in the postseason.

It was clearly a mistake. He got Ohtani out right after Rojas.

Really, no one in the jays BP including Yesavage looked solid. Dominguez almost gave it away the previous inning. The only other guys to consider using were Gausman on no rest, Lauer and maybe to consider Bassitt for one more inning.

Bieber was more of a questionable move for me because of the Dodgers hitting solo HRs and his tendency to give them up in bunches.

No Hoffman was the same as regular season he would have 3 or 4 good outings then give up big dingers

[PowerPlant1]

I've never been this depressed in my life!

To think we were two outs from winning it all...

The missed opportunities in this game as well.. SMFH.. I love and hate this team at the same time.

I'm juat mad at this dumb **** organization. Even when we do something right, we don't do it fully right. Like, who the **** plays IKF in the WS? Who the **** has Lukes batting second? Why the **** did it take so long to move Varsho down? Why the **** did we not acquire a cloaer at any point during the season? Why the **** did we not demote Hoffman when it was clear for months that he wasn't an MLB closer?

Shapiro has been an MLB president/GM fpr a quarter of a **** century and he's still ringless. It's obvious why.

Same questions I have in my head. I had a hard time sleeping. Will take me a long time to get over this. I said after Game 6 that if you were serious about winning Game 7- Vlad needed to hit Second. Both Lukes and Varsho should be hitting outside the Top 5. That Clement needed to hit above Varsho. If I and a few others can see these things- why the **** does a guy like Shapiro and his buddy Atkins making millions not see these things?

I am still trying to figure out what value this front office saw in IKF? IKF is a better defender at SS/3rd base, but less so at Second. Why not give Davis Schneider the chance at Second Base, and have Loperfido on the World Series roster as a Pinch Runner who is faster? There is a reason why Shapiro has won Jack. Unfortunately, we are stuck with him for many more years now, along with his buddy Atkins.

Maybe because IKF is a vet and Loperfido a rookie who may have done something silly like not take an adequate lead from third.....

They're all good points except I disagree about Hoffman who proved himself and turned it around in the postseason. Lost by the narrowest of margins even with all of what management did wrong which means they did a lot right as well. Still ridiculous because had they optimized a bit more, there would be no need to talk about any of this.

Clement not batting higher. Maybe because the FO and management are nerd and stat hungry and look at silly things like exit velocity and not on things like the talent to poke the ball into holes to get hits. Randle for instance talked about how Clement's success was an illusion. If such thinking was present in the fo/manager, then Clement is kept lower for little to no reason. I mean the guy almost got a huge hit off of Yamamoto of all people.

Without Yamamoto the Dodgers don't win this. That and a deeper assortment of starters was THE factor for me but not the only one as you point out.