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World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM

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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2861 » by Asianiac_24 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:39 pm

I’m pretty optimistic upcoming this year next year. I think Clement/Barger has definitely cemented themselves as regulars. Clements run is a fluke but I believe Barger has the making to be a 30HR/850-900 OPS kind of hitter. Santander was a 40HR hitter and is coming back. Springer is another year older but I still see him hit around 800 ops minimum. We finally get to play Giminez as SS year round. Varsho sucks in the WS but he’s still invaluable as a defender.

Springer/Barger/Vlad/Santander is a very solid top 4 lineup. We just need a solid #1/#2 pitcher and a real closer and we have enough to run it back.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2862 » by Hoopstarr » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:42 pm

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I'm juat mad at this dumb **** organization. Even when we do something right, we don't do it fully right. Like, who the **** plays IKF in the WS? Who the **** has Lukes batting second? Why the **** did it take so long to move Varsho down? Why the **** did we not acquire a cloaer at any point during the season? Why the **** did we not demote Hoffman when it was clear for months that he wasn't an MLB closer?

Shapiro has been an MLB president/GM fpr a quarter of a **** century and he's still ringless. It's obvious why.

Same questions I have in my head. I had a hard time sleeping. Will take me a long time to get over this. I said after Game 6 that if you were serious about winning Game 7- Vlad needed to hit Second. Both Lukes and Varsho should be hitting outside the Top 5. That Clement needed to hit above Varsho. If I and a few others can see these things- why the **** does a guy like Shapiro and his buddy Atkins making millions not see these things?

I am still trying to figure out what value this front office saw in IKF? IKF is a better defender at SS/3rd base, but less so at Second. Why not give Davis Schneider the chance at Second Base, and have Loperfido on the World Series roster as a Pinch Runner who is faster? There is a reason why Shapiro has won Jack. Unfortunately, we are stuck with him for many more years now, along with his buddy Atkins.


You guys are taking this way too hard - I had similar disappointments back in 2015 vs Royals and 2020 Raptors ECF vs Boston. But it's just a game, played by some dudes who wear the name of our city.

It's a beautiful day outside today.


ALCS loss in game 6 to a team that was outplaying us all along?
ECF loss in a game 7 against a more talented team where we would've been down 0-3 if not for a miracle?

Don't downplay people's feelings about a historically cruel loss. We were the better team all through the series and lost on 9000 LOB and plays like their 9 hitter hitting a HR, a play at home plate separated by an inch, and colliding fielders completing a catch. You can say we should've just converted and nitpick strategic minutia in hindsight, but the probability of blanking all those times is far more about luck than execution. We made it that far precisely because of giving ourselves those chances with our hitting ethos, so for it to suddenly be rejected to that extent is an incomprehensible injustice.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2863 » by LLJ » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:42 pm

As everyone here said, the best way to increase your odds of consistently deep playoff runs is to spend like crazy. It's been the proven formula for many teams, including our 92-93 runs. Top 5 payroll is fine and all for regular WC spots but this is an arms race and you gotta get into funny money it seems nowadays if you're truly serious.

The 2001 Yankees the great Mariano Rivera choked Game 7 but it doesn't matter when it was just one part of a long stretch of multiple WS appearances and wins during that era for them.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2864 » by Madvillainy2004 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:48 pm

Id rather give 300+ million to Kyle Tucker instead of Bichette
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2865 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:50 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:Woke up sad

Still processing everything


Same. But I take some comfort in knowing how much heart this team showed, and how everyone in the league, and in sports, recognized how good a team this was. We were expected to be run over, but we stood our ground. I've seen comments about this being one of the greatest World Series ever played, and it's hard to argue against that.


It’s just so beautiful to see everyone come together.
I don’t even mind when the casuals hop on board and start rooting for the team.
The way the city got behind the 2019 Raps and 2025 Jays was a sight to behold. City was buzzing, all differences were set aside and the city was full of joy & happiness.

No other American city can replicate that.

Would’ve been sweet to get another parade, but we fell just a tad bit short.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2866 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:52 pm

Madvillainy2004 wrote:Id rather give 300+ million to Kyle Tucker instead of Bichette


Def would make more sense.

Clement should be our SS moving forward.
Gimenez is our 2B.

Tucker would be a significant upgrade over Lukes.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2867 » by Coco Costanza » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:53 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
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LoveMyRaps wrote:Woke up sad

Still processing everything


Same. But I take some comfort in knowing how much heart this team showed, and how everyone in the league, and in sports, recognized how good a team this was. We were expected to be run over, but we stood our ground. I've seen comments about this being one of the greatest World Series ever played, and it's hard to argue against that.


It’s just so beautiful to see everyone come together.
I don’t even mind when the casuals hop on board and start rooting for the team.
The way the city got behind the 2019 Raps and 2025 Jays was a sight to behold. City was buzzing, all differences were set aside and the city was full of joy & happiness.

No other American city can replicate that.

Would’ve been sweet to get another parade, but we fell just a tad bit short.


I'm not sure who said this after the loss, but they said Blue Jays fans will never know how beautiful this series was to watch because they were on the losing end. God, what a gut wrenching series.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2868 » by Potential » Sun Nov 2, 2025 6:00 pm

What makes this worse is now we gotta go back to watching that mess of a team, the "Raptors"
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2869 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Nov 2, 2025 6:02 pm

Potential wrote:What makes this worse is now we gotta go back to watching that mess of a team, the "Raptors"


They need to figure it out

No excuse to miss the playoffs this year
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2870 » by WaltFrazier » Sun Nov 2, 2025 6:03 pm

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Read on Twitter


Hmmmm.

Yeah that cost a run. He was slow to get moving when he did go, as well. Another foot or split second quicker start and he scores
There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2871 » by Double Helix » Sun Nov 2, 2025 6:08 pm

The Blue Jays massively overachieved considering our rotation versus theirs. Offensively we had a modest edge but our guys were super banged up.

Eventually their high priced elite arms beat our medium priced very good arms. Yamdamoto in particular was their true MVP. Their pitching edge like everyone assumed would be the difference before the series began did end up being the difference.

The reason it hurts so much is because of how close we were to pulling off a great upset.

This was not Goliath vs Goliath or David versus Goliath. It was elite premium cut young level pitching and swing and miss home run ball versus small ball excellence and fading Cy Young guys whose best days were behind them. In the end the way most have built winners the past half decade still won out.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2872 » by Raps in 4 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 6:09 pm

Asianiac_24 wrote:I’m pretty optimistic upcoming this year next year. I think Clement/Barger has definitely cemented themselves as regulars. Clements run is a fluke but I believe Barger has the making to be a 30HR/850-900 OPS kind of hitter. Santander was a 40HR hitter and is coming back. Springer is another year older but I still see him hit around 800 ops minimum. We finally get to play Giminez as SS year round. Varsho sucks in the WS but he’s still invaluable as a defender.

Springer/Barger/Vlad/Santander is a very solid top 4 lineup. We just need a solid #1/#2 pitcher and a real closer and we have enough to run it back.


We need more hitting. Varsho, Gimenez, and Clement are all defensive specialists who can't hit (Clement's postseason run was a fluke, like you said). Santander is a good hitter, but not elite. We absolutely need to bring back Bo or replace him with someone like Tucker. I'm also not confident in Springer having a productive or healthy season. Barger is also still a bit of a question mark, although this playoff run was reassuring.

The bigger problem will be our pitching staff. Scherzer and Bassitt are gone. Maybe Bieber too. Gausman will be one year older. Will Berrios have a bounceback year? Even at his best, he's always been an end-of-rotation starter. How will Yesavage look during a full season? Our pitching staff was already held together by duct tape this year, and it's about to have a lot more holes heading into the off-season. We should be looking to sign 2 front-end starters. We also need a closer. We cannot go into next season with Hoffman in the role again.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2873 » by Lateral Quicks » Sun Nov 2, 2025 6:15 pm

So i woke up around noon, and immediately started thinking about IKF's horrible baserunning last night. He should have had a lead almost as long as the third baseman was off third (that is, a country mile). Instead, his lead was a few steps. With a proper lead, he scores easily. This, more than the home runs allowed, lack of sacrifice flies, etc. upsets me the most.

But I guess to be fair to IKF, he's such a terrible hitter that he's probably not too used to running the bases.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2874 » by Double Helix » Sun Nov 2, 2025 6:16 pm

The fact that they won with a big swing and miss home run attempt and elite pitching excellence while we lost while trying to execute small ball in a situation perfectly designed to showcase its effectiveness was fitting.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2875 » by Raps in 4 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 6:19 pm

Double Helix wrote:The fact that they won with a big swing and miss home run attempt and elite pitching excellence while we lost while trying to execute small ball in a situation perfectly designed to showcase its effectiveness was fitting.


Not carrying a scrub like IKF on the roster or not using the most HR-prone reliever in baseball with a 1-run lead would have almost assuredly led to a win for us.

This loss was a case of Friedman/Roberts outsmarting Shatkins/Schneider.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2876 » by Vampirate » Sun Nov 2, 2025 6:20 pm

Double Helix wrote:The Blue Jays massively overachieved considering our rotation versus theirs. Offensively we had a modest edge but our guys were super banged up.

Eventually their high priced arms beat our ours. Just like everyone assumed they would before the series began.

The reason it hurts so much is because of how close we were to pulling off a great upset.

This was not Goliath vs Goliath or David versus Goliath. It was pitching and swing and miss home run ball versus small ball excellence and in the end the way most have built winners the past half decade still won out.


Yamamoto is the reason why the dodgers won, any other pitcher in game 6 or in game 7 and the Dodgers lose. it's as simple as that.

The Jays actually lead the league in basically every hitting category in the post season, including home runs. The jays had 28 post season home runs, the dodgers 24. Simply put we were the best post season hitting team in 2025 and it wasn't even close.

Simply put, we ran into Yamamoto and his 1.45 post 2025 season ERA, we actually beat every other Dodger pitcher except maybe Sasaki. yes, we even beat Ohtani as well.

If this Jays offense couldn't beat Yamamoto, no offense could except for some truly historic offenses like the 2004 Red Sox.

We just did not have a singular pitcher with that level of shut out ability over that long a time period overall.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2877 » by johanliebert » Sun Nov 2, 2025 6:21 pm

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Randle McMurphy wrote:And we need to hope the players fight hard in 2027 to prevent a salary cap from getting put into place. That would cost baseball a season (at least) but we very badly do not want one.



no, you are wrong here once again
thats why nobody likes you here.

baseball do indeed need a salary cap similiar to the nhl/nba
if we dont, then we have to spend every year just to compete with the yankees and the red sox
you have to keep in mind that we are stuck in the toughest division of baseball.

Just because Rogers spent this year does not mean that they will spend again for the next 2 years because they are known for being cheap.

He didnt make a case for or against a cap. His point was that their could potentially be a year long lockout which isnt good for this roster.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2878 » by Raps in 4 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 6:23 pm

I'd rather our turd of an owner spend $300M+ on the team than a salary cap get implemented.

With a salary cap, the Rays will dominate all of baseball. The only reason this team has been even remotely decent over the last few years is because we spend a lot. Shatkins are terrible at drafting and player development.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2879 » by Madvillainy2004 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 6:30 pm

I gotta watch a Brandon Ingram led basketball team and Auston Matthews who's washed with a chronic injury lmfao
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2880 » by rapstarter » Sun Nov 2, 2025 6:36 pm

Madvillainy2004 wrote:I gotta watch a Brandon Ingram led basketball team and Auston Matthews who's washed with a chronic injury lmfao


Can't be disappointed if your expecations are already low. Leafs have finally learned. There's no point fooling people for two thirds of the year :nod:

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